England's Golden Age from 3-7 June

[Serial_Apologist]

Starting at noon today (the programme, not the golden age)

One sometimes hopes...

[rauschwerk]

'England's Golden Age'.

How, in the 21st century, can we still imply that this was English music's one and only Golden Age? Have we not since 1900 produced many masters who equalled the six under consideration here?

Two careless misprints, at least one of which Donald Macleod faithfully read out: 'Thule, the period of cosmology' and 'See, see the world is incarnate'.

All wonderful music, though.

[Richard Tarleton]

'England's Golden Age'.

How, in the 21st century, can we still imply that this was English music's one and only Golden Age? Have we not since 1900 produced many masters who equalled the six under consideration here?

Is that being implied? Perhaps it is. Spain had one too, around the same time.....

[doversoul1]

'England's Golden Age'.

How, in the 21st century, can we still imply that this was English music's one and only Golden Age? Have we not since 1900 produced many masters who equalled the six under consideration here?

Two careless misprints, at least one of which Donald Macleod faithfully read out: 'Thule, the period of cosmology' and 'See, see the world is incarnate'.

All wonderful music, though.

I think the term often indicates the first of such period.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

'England's Golden Age'.
How, in the 21st century, can we still imply that this was English music's one and only Golden Age?

Didn't DMcL refer to the contemporary literary activities of the period to suggest that it wasn't a reference just to "English Music"?

Have we not since 1900 produced many masters who equalled the six under consideration here?

No - not "many".

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I think the term often indicates the first of such period.

Well, in that case, it's definitely wrong!

[vinteuil]

Well, in that case, it's definitely wrong!

... come now, you've already claimed 'Platinum' for Dunstaple &c - the least you can do is allow his epigones the title of 'Golden'...


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[doversoul1]

Well, in that case, it's definitely wrong!

But aren’t you thinking about England's Platinum Age?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

(I'll get my petard.)

[DracoM]

Got to say, bit of hostage to fortune to call ANY age of anything 'Golden'. In whose judgement is it 'golden'?

[french frank]

Got to say, bit of hostage to fortune to call ANY age of anything 'Golden'. In whose judgement is it 'golden'?

It's just a historical label, isn't it? Classical (Latin) Golden Age mid-1st c BC to beginning of CE; Spanish siglo de oro mid-16th c to mid-17th c.; English Golden Age the Elizabetha era &c.

[DracoM]

So, as history seems to be playing out, it's downhill all the way after that, is it?

[french frank]

So, as history seems to be playing out, it's downhill all the way after that, is it?

Not necessarily - but the characteristics of an age are understood in context, and the modern age can never be understood in any context but its own: as 'modernism'. You might say that 'Golden Ages' are always in the past!

[doversoul1]

So, as history seems to be playing out, it's downhill all the way after that, is it?

I think it is about the concentration rather than the height/level of a particular activity and the term doesn’t needs to be seen as some sort of inverted derogatory.

[doversoul1]

Golden or platinum, the music has been glorious. I very much enjoyed the programmes.