Johann Pachelbel (9-13 April)

[MickyD]

Erm ... I hesitate to suggest this - and, of course, apologise profusely if this turns out to be presumptuous on my part - but, you wouldn't happen to be confusing Pachelbel with Buxtehude on this occasion would you, Micky?

Oh my goodness, I am getting more and more forgetful in my old age, and the fact that my CDs are now running into the thousands doesn't help either! Of course you are right, ferney. And I must get hold of that newish Harmonia Mundi disc that Richard mentioned.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Not to worry, Micky - I muddled up Paul Dessau and Hans Eisler on BeefO's Second Vienna School Thread, and I'm still in my prime!


And I think it reflects rather badly on Marco Polo that they haven't had a Pachelbel Chamber Works series.





(The record company, not the explorer.)

[gurnemanz]

In the old days, when the Canon was usually played far too slowly, I considered Pachelbel to be among the most boring composers ever. This opinion was reinforced when Radio 3 put on a series of his complete organ works (those were the days!). However, when I heard some of his motets sung by Cantus Cölln, I revised my opinion. Jauchzet dem Herrn is a delight from beginning to end.

I shall listen with interest this week.

It was good to be reminded of those Pachelbel settings directed by Konrad Junghänel, which I have, but they are buried deep in the Deutsche Harmonia Mundi Anniversary Edition and I don't think I have listened to them more than a couple times since acquiring them when the box came out in 2008 (50 CDs for £40 was an astonishing bargain - still available used). I've just listened again and the singing really is marvellous, also with great diction, especially valuable since no texts are attached. An exceptional disc.

[oddoneout]

I came in partway through the variations on 'Alle Menschen mussen sterben' yesterday and was very taken with it, both for the music itself but also the performance. Information on the schedule page about the recordings used is missing so I'll have to do a bit of digging later.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I came in partway through the variations on 'Alle Menschen mussen sterben' yesterday and was very taken with it, both for the music itself but also the performance. Information on the schedule page about the recordings used is missing so I'll have to do a bit of digging later.

http://www.batagov.com/zvuki/amms_e.htm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Anton+Batagov%2C+pachelbel&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AAnton+Batagov%5Cc+pachelbel

[oddoneout]

http://www.batagov.com/zvuki/amms_e.htm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...%5Cc+pachelbel

Thank you kindly good sir.At first glance it all seems to be formats I can't use but at least I now what I'm looking for now which will help.

[Serial_Apologist]

Pachabel your troubles in your old kit bag...

[MickyD]

Not to worry, Micky - I muddled up Paul Dessau and Hans Eisler on BeefO's Second Vienna School Thread, and I'm still in my prime!


And I think it reflects rather badly on Marco Polo that they haven't had a Pachelbel Chamber Works series.





(The record company, not the explorer.)

Er, I hesitate to do the same to you, ferney, but wasn't it Da Capo, not Marco Polo?

[Quarky]

There was not, unless I missed it, any analysis of precisely how Pachelbel influenced Bach. At the moment I'm just guessing, and I don't really have the time to go down the route of an extended investigation.

Noted the Bach Players have a double CD on the subject, but for me that may not be a worthwhile investment.

[Serial_Apologist]

There was not, unless I missed it, any analysis of precisely how Pachelbel influenced Bach. At the moment I'm just guessing, and I don't really have the time to go down the route of an extended investigation.

Noted the Bach Players have a double CD on the subject, but for me that may not be a worthwhile investment.

You don't get that sort of approach from COTW these days - it's become more biographic than musicological, and while that balance redressing was to be welcome in lightening some of the load and illuminating contexts, it has gone too far in that direction, imv; which is a pity, much as I like and respect this programme.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Er, I hesitate to do the same to you, ferney, but wasn't it Da Capo, not Marco Polo?

See what I mean!!! (Da Capo it was indeed.)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

You don't get that sort of approach from COTW these days - it's become more biographic than musicological, and while that balance redressing was to be welcome in lightening some of the load and illuminating contexts, it has gone too far in that direction, imv; which is a pity, much as I like and respect this programme.

[french frank]

You don't get that sort of approach from COTW these days - it's become more biographic than musicological

Interesting you should say that: it reminded me of a phrase in the commissioning brief for Essential Classics, just last year: "Detailed musicological and biographical detail should be kept to a minimum. This is more suited to Composer of the Week which follows at 12.00." Or biographical, yes, musicological, no?

[Serial_Apologist]

Interesting you should say that: it reminded me of a phrase in the commissioning brief for Essential Classics, just last year: "Detailed musicological and biographical detail should be kept to a minimum. This is more suited to Composer of the Week which follows at 12.00." Or biographical, yes, musicological, no?

I guess it must be contaminating, ff.

[Quarky]

There was not, unless I missed it, any analysis of precisely how Pachelbel influenced Bach. At the moment I'm just guessing, and I don't really have the time to go down the route of an extended investigation.

Noted the Bach Players have a double CD on the subject, but for me that may not be a worthwhile investment.

Correction - on listening again, episode 1 goes quite a long way in satisfying my curiosity. (thanks for comments).