Handel; CotW, 29/1 - 2/2/18

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Handel; CotW, 29/1 - 2/2/18

    Beethoven last week - and his favourite composer next Concentrating on the near half-century of the composer's years in London.



    ( And it looks as if there won't be a "guest" telling us we can hear Handel's financial worries expressed in his use of fugues. )
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
  • LeMartinPecheur
    Full Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 4717

    #2
    Isn't that an unusually long week, 19/1 - 2/2/18? Still, perhaps GFH earns it by writing rather a lot of long works?
    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3


      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        #4
        Bump.

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        • doversoul1
          Ex Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 7132

          #5
          There was nothing very new information-wise but there is always something new in Handel’s music (to me) which is always enjoyable although I can’t get too excited about his English Oratorios.

          Takemitsu next week

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            his English Oratorios
            Not Athelia? Some lovely music in there. Also, Israel in Egypt is a good romp, with a much higher ratio of chorus to solos. Good for choirs, especially if they can muster eight parts.

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            • MickyD
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4832

              #7
              Folk usually wax very lyrical about Theodora...I don't have a recording of it and feel I must rectify that at some point. But I am like ds, I find it difficult to get as excited over the oratorios as I do over the fabulous operas.

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              • Constantbee
                Full Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 504

                #8
                Somehow got myself on the mailing list for a holiday company specialising in cultural tours. Certainly not the sort we can afford, but it’s nice to dream and their itineraries can sometimes be adapted for the independent traveller. They’re offering a one day ‘Handel in London’ tour this year, visiting sites associated with the composer, and culminating in a performance of Rinaldo at The Barbican. Very nice too – if you’ve got the stamina. So, I thought I’d have a go at planning my own budget walking tour.

                10:00 Start at Green Park tube station. Pause at Burlington House in Piccadilly, Handel’s address in 1713. Cut through Mayfair via Berkeley Square to reach the Handel and Hendrix museum in Brook Street. A short stroll across New Bond Street to Hanover Square and pop into St Georges, Handel’s parish church. Cross over Regent Street and head south for the Haymarket for Her Majesty’s Theatre, formerly The King’s Theatre, the site of several Handel premiers, including Rinaldo.

                12:30 Time for a packed lunch in Trafalgar Square?

                13:00 Continue north up St Martins Lane and hanger right for Covent Garden and the Royal Opera House, in Handel’s times called The Theatre Royal, another premier venue. Head north up Southampton Row for Bloomsbury and the Foundling Museum at Brunswick Street. You'll probably need to take the bus, by now.

                14:00 Foundling Museum. LOTS of Handel interest here, and if you pick the right day you’ll get a FREE talk, but you'd have to have booked for that.

                15:00 Collapse exhausted, give in and hail a cab to the station. Listen to Rinaldo on your phone on the way home.

                Cost? Well, certainly a lot less than the brochure.

                And there's more. The ROH website has got a good summary of Handel's London, with more detailed information and extended routes for another day:



                And the tune ends too soon for us all

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12954

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Constantbee View Post
                  Somehow got myself on the mailing list for a holiday company specialising in cultural tours. Certainly not the sort we can afford, but it’s nice to dream and their itineraries can sometimes be adapted for the independent traveller. They’re offering a one day ‘Handel in London’ tour this year / ... /

                  Cost? Well, certainly a lot less than the brochure.
                  ... I should coco!




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                  • MickyD
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 4832

                    #10
                    Wow, £265 and it's only an afternoon and a concert performance of 'Rinaldo'!

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12954

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                      Folk usually wax very lyrical about Theodora...I don't have a recording of it and feel I must rectify that at some point. But I am like ds, I find it difficult to get as excited over the oratorios as I do over the fabulous operas.
                      ... have just taken delivery of the recent Christophers / Sixteen Jephtha



                      I think you would love it...


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                      • MickyD
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4832

                        #12
                        Thanks, Vints...I have the old Harnoncourt set, but am sure your latest recommendation is a step up from that.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          That Jeptha is something else! I have JEGGERS and I thought that was rather good until I heard Harry Christophers’s recording!

                          I have a Paul McCreesh’s set, of Theodora. Certainly a splendid set! Well worth getting. I have it as part of tat marvellous box set called Handel The Great Oratorios. If you can buy it!
                          Last edited by BBMmk2; 05-02-18, 09:08.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Constantbee
                            Full Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 504

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            That's the one! Well spotted, Vinteuil

                            Have been wondering whether Handel operas on dvd might be worth watching. This is not a subject I know much about but they look accessible enough. I'd be inclined to start with one of the Glyndebourne selections by Opus Arte. Saul perhaps.

                            Thanks all for recomendations btw Jephtha does sound good.
                            And the tune ends too soon for us all

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                            • doversoul1
                              Ex Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7132

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Constantbee View Post
                              That's the one! Well spotted, Vinteuil

                              Have been wondering whether Handel operas on dvd might be worth watching. This is not a subject I know much about but they look accessible enough. I'd be inclined to start with one of the Glyndebourne selections by Opus Arte. Saul perhaps.

                              Thanks all for recomendations btw Jephtha does sound good.
                              Handel’s operas (and Rameau’s too) when staged often get so messed up (to me, that is) I find it much more enjoyable just listening to good recordings (Go to Alan Curtis ) However, I don’t ever get tired of watching this Alcina. I don’t think the principle works so well with Tamerlano for some reasons.


                              samples;

                              Ah, mio cor! Schernito sei!Stelle! Dei! Nume d’amore!Traditore! T’amo tanto.Puoi lasciarmi sola in pianto?Oh Dei! Puoi lasciarmi, oh Dei, Perche?T`amo fanto,...


                              This production came out at about the same time and I thought it really highlighted the different approaches (I did not like this at all)


                              a sample
                              Alcina, Handel, Anna Prohaska, Tornami a vagheggiar

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