William Mathias (1934 - 92)

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
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    William Mathias (1934 - 92)

    I've always found Mathias' instrumental and orchestral works very attractive: beginning with the strong influence of the Tippett of Midsummer Marriage, his Music moved into a distinct, more individual soundworld. The choral works contribute to a genre I have little sympathy for, but this week offers also many rare opportunities to hear his other works. As the Beeblurb puts it:

    Marking the 25th anniversary since the death of the Welsh composer William James Mathias, his daughter Rhiannon Mathias and friend Geraint Lewis join Donald Macleod to explore the composer's extraordinary life and music. During his career Mathias had his works regularly performed on an international stage. His orchestral score Laudi was at one point the most often performed work by any living British composer. Mathias was frequently inundated with commissions, including one to compose music for the wedding of His Royal Highness, The Prince of Wales in 1981. Alongside composing, Mathias was busy teaching new talent at Bangor University, whilst also sitting as a member of the Welsh Arts Council, the British Council, and the Music Advisory Board of the BBC. During his life he was involved in the transition to full professional status of Welsh National Opera, active in the development of the then BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra, and oversaw the founding of the National Youth Choir and Youth Brass Band of Wales. He was highly active on the British musical scene, and greatly disciplined to have achieved so much during his lifetime. He died aged 57 in 1992 having composed many works including symphonies and concertos.

    From the age of five William Mathias started to compose music. By the time he was six he'd also started to learn the piano, and would become a highly accomplished pianist. Mathias was born in Whitland in South Wales, and learnt much about music not only from his mother, but also from the then newly-launched Third Programme. He went to the University of Aberystwyth to study English, French and Philosophy, but was encouraged by Ian Parrott to change to music instead. His Flute Sonatina dates from this period, as does his first Piano Concerto which Mathias performed in front of the composer Edmund Rubbra as part of his undergraduate examination. Mathias graduated from Aberystwyth with a First Class honours degree, and went to study music with Lennox Berkeley at the Royal Academy of Music. These lessons often took place in his tutor's home in Little Venice, where Berkeley would gently encourage Mathias to find his own musical voice rather than pursuing the avant garde.
    (Nice bloke, too.)
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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    And all available to be heard in lossless 48/16 twice a day. Oh we lucky people. I have to admit that Dawns agored reminds me more of Arnold than Tippett though.

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    • maestro267
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 355

      #3
      Pleasantly surprised to discover this, especially at the start of the week. Will form a nice prologue to the Proms concerts.

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      • pastoralguy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7847

        #4
        I don't think that in over 40 years of concert going I've ever heard one of his works live. I do have a few Lyrita CDs of his music so I really should listen to them.

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        • Tony Halstead
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1717

          #5
          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
          I don't think that in over 40 years of concert going I've ever heard one of his works live. I do have a few Lyrita CDs of his music so I really should listen to them.
          If you listen to his lovely 'Ave Rex' with the LSO and David Atherton, and if you hear some rather 'fumbly' organ playing, that was me!
          I know, I know, a 'bad workman blames his tools', but it was a strange paradox that the 'acoustically beatific' Kingsway Hall had an absolutely vile, useless organ! (also unfortunately heard in the Previn/ LSO/ Walton's Belshazzar's Feast).

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7847

            #6
            Originally posted by Tony View Post
            If you listen to his lovely 'Ave Rex' with the LSO and David Atherton, and if you hear some rather 'fumbly' organ playing, that was me!
            I know, I know, a 'bad workman blames his tools', but it was a strange paradox that the 'acoustically beatific' Kingsway Hall had an absolutely vile, useless organ! (also unfortunately heard in the Previn/ LSO/ Walton's Belshazzar's Feast).

            I often feel sorry for keyboard players who have to simply put up with whatever instrument is on offer. For many years, the Usher Hall here in Edinburgh had a piano that was simply not fit for purpose. Many great artists did their best with it but when even Ashkenazy is struggling you knew it was bad. Eventually, the city council were sufficiently embarrassed into purchasing a new one.

            The Festival Society simply hired one in unless an artist brought their own.

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            • Nevilevelis

              #7
              Listening to you now - you sound very fine, and I would certainly blame the instrument if I were not completely happy about it! It's a fine recording!

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              • EdgeleyRob
                Guest
                • Nov 2010
                • 12180

                #8
                Marvellous.

                I like his Symphonies,String Quartets and Violin Sonatas a lot



                I miss Roehre.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                  I like his Symphonies,String Quartets and Violin Sonatas a lot.
                  Me, too

                  I miss Roehre.
                  Me, too

                  I wasn't taken by the 1st Piano Concerto today, though - at best rather ordinary, at worse rather boring.
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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11191

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    I wasn't taken by the 1st Piano Concerto today, though - at best rather ordinary, at worse rather boring.
                    A genuine 'undergraduate' work, written when he was a student at Aberystwyth.
                    Rubbra (the external examiner for his BMus) thought highly enough of it to award Mathias a First Class degree (so the liner notes say).

                    This is from the Gramophone review (courtesy of Presto, again):

                    "The First Concerto was written when Mathias was only 20 and reveals a fascinatingly wiry, acerbic mindset which the composer largely jettisoned in his later style.”

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37928

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

                      I wasn't taken by the 1st Piano Concerto today, though - at best rather ordinary, at worse rather boring.
                      I've complimented this work over on the British, Commonwealth and down Old Compton Street thread!

                      (That Gramophone review is right on the mark about the later stuff in my admittedly limited experience, but I'm keeping all doors open this week).

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                      • Hornspieler
                        Late Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1847

                        #12
                        "Bill" Mathias was a lovely man and a great loss to Welsh Music.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          William Mathias, is a composer I know, hardly anything about. Certainly the programme has shown me more of his music, especially his PC2!
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            William Mathias, is a composer I know, hardly anything about. Certainly the programme has shown me more of his music, especially his PC2!
                            Erm ... not actually amongst the works being broadcast, Bbm: Nos 1 (yesterday) and 3 (today - played by much-missed Forumista Peter Katin).

                            I'd prefer to hear the second Pno Conc to Thursday's Lux Aeterna, but I suppose they didn't want to broadcast all three.
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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37928

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              William Mathias, is a composer I know, hardly anything about. Certainly the programme has shown me more of his music, especially his PC2!
                              Well I think it was the first we heard yesterday; but today it's the third and my impression is as when I first heard it as new - sorry folks - in that, for all the fore-apologia about influences spontaneously unravelled, the music I'm hearing sounds to me merely like a procession of watered down devices stitched together to make a simulacrum that says to me that the composers referenced would never have composed music such as this (too true) because their visions wouldn't have let them dilute their concoctions into some sort of musical fruit punch. Like the guy in the back of the church joke said: I could have done it!

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