6.6.2011 - Satie (repeat)

[french frank]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00npls6

[Quarky]

Somewhat surprised that Satie has produced no comments.

An extremely interesting COTW, and one which fits in nicely with the Minimalist programmes broadcast last Saturday.

A flawed genius perhaps, but it seems that his contributions to 20th century music largely go unacknowledged.

[Serial_Apologist]

26 - 30 April 2021

This can already be iplayed - does that mean it is a repeat? From French Frank's Op headings, it appears to be a new, er, spin on the composer.

Click on the link and then follow through:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p020dy9k

Some Satieties, in my own translations:

"I came into a very young world in [a] very old age."

"Children love new things; it's only at the age of reason that they lose their taste for novelty. Instinctively, they detest old ideas. They doubt if they will be the ones who will eliminate them in the future..."

"I am a man in the genre of Adam (of Paradise), who never won a prize - a lazybones, no doubt."

"All great artists are amateurs".

"Seriously, if I laugh, it's without it being expressed. I let myself off, with affability".

"The artist has no right uselessly to waste his listener's time".

"Satieism could not exist. You would find me hostile. In art there's no need for slavery".

"Certain artists want to be buried alive. One has well enough time to be in a cemetery".

"The exercise of art requires us to live in the most absolute renouncement".

"And all that came to me by default of music".

Taken off LP "Eric Satie - Jean-Joel Barbier, piano" - Disques BAM.

[Bryn]

The link offered is to a podcast edited from the previous Satie Composer of the Week programmes. What makes you so sure this week's programmes are repeats?

[Serial_Apologist]

The link offered is to a podcast edited from the previous Satie Composer of the Week programmes. What makes you so sure this week's programmes are repeats?

I'm not sure. I just linked to the first Google! reference, assuming it to pertain to this week's offerings. The daily headings in Radio Times are different from in ff's OP.

Anyways, I've just run through what's on offer, and it's pleasing how inclusive it is in representational terms, if not exhaustive, obviously.
Something from the extraordinary Messe des pauvres, which so looks forward (by *only* 30 years!) to organ music by Messiaen and Tournemire, is included on Thursday, and right now I am listening for the first time to music from Relâche, having only heard the more often played Entr'acte cinematographique from said work.

[french frank]

This can already be iplayed - does that mean it is a repeat? From French Frank's Op headings, it appears to be a new, er, spin on the composer.

My OP must have won second (equal) prize for fewest replies - one in 10 years! That was in 2011, and there seem to have been other CotWs in 2014 (?) and 2016.

[Serial_Apologist]

My OP must have won second (equal) prize for fewest replies - one in 10 years! That was in 2011, and there seem to have been other CotWs in 2014 (?) and 2016.

Hmmm. It's had sometimes hard to account for how many CotWs are made for particular composers, even someone such as Satie, but particularly for the over represented and famous.

[Bryn]

My OP must have won second (equal) prize for fewest replies - one in 10 years! That was in 2011, and there seem to have been other CotWs in 2014 (?) and 2016.

Not forgetting that at the end of June 2000.

Oh, and the 2021 series appears to be new. For a start, the Horvath recordings were not issued until 2017.

[Serial_Apologist]

This latest has been a very enlightening, often touching look at this composer. Was he autistic is the question that comes to mind, maybe. One might take slight issue with MacDonald's closing comment that there was no other composer like him - perhaps "up to that time" might have been more accurate; I can imagine Bryn could name a few who have been close in spirit.

[Bryn]

This latest has been a very enlightening, often touching look at this composer. Was he autistic is the question that comes to mind, maybe. One might take slight issue with MacDonald's closing comment that there was no other composer like him - perhaps "up to that time" might have been more accurate; I can imagine Bryn could name a few who have been close in spirit.

No, I think Donald Macleod was pretty much spot on. Of course, others have been influenced by him and there have been others with 'unusual' lifestyles but I think he was really quite unique.

[DracoM]

VG week. Surprise, fun etc.

[Mark S]

I love Erik, but when I look at his career as a whole I am left wondering if he just latched onto whatever was trending at the time of writng. Aestheticism, surrealism, Hellenism.

[gurnemanz]

I only very recently got to know Erik's "Drame Symphonique", Socrate (neither symphonic nor especially dramatic?) when I downloaded this recommendable Hugues Cuénod recital. Understandably perhaps, never a huge favourite in the Satie repertoire but an interesting piece. Coincidentally, as with the No 19 bus, a couple more came along in quick succession. First, via a good-value John Cage download, also from Presto, a 3 CD set containing the Satie fan's four-hand piano version. Second, last Friday on CotW Barbara Hannigan's marvellous rendition with Reinbert de Leeuw.

[Mandryka]

What do you guys make of Uspud?

[Bryn]

Loved it since first hearing it in the Riri Shimada triple CD set.