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  • MickyD
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 4811

    Vanhal

    I've always been fond of this unjustly neglected contemporary of Haydn and Mozart - do give these programmes a listen this week, they are full of some very agreeable music.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
    I've always been fond of this unjustly neglected contemporary of Haydn and Mozart - do give these programmes a listen this week, they are full of some very agreeable music.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Pabmusic
      Full Member
      • May 2011
      • 5537

      #3
      Agreed, MickyD. Was it Michael Kelly who wrote that he attended an event where the music was provided by a string quartet of Josef Haydn and Carl Ditters von Dittersdorf (violins), W. A. Mozart (viola) and Johan Baptist Vanhal (cello)? I certainly have programmed an orchestral concert around those four for just that reason.

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      • Flay
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 5795

        #4
        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
        Agreed, MickyD. Was it Michael Kelly who wrote that he attended an event where the music was provided by a string quartet of Josef Haydn and Carl Ditters von Dittersdorf (violins), W. A. Mozart (viola) and Johan Baptist Vanhal (cello)? I certainly have programmed an orchestral concert around those four for just that reason.
        Indeed:

        Jens Peter Larsen suggests that "quartet playing was central to the contact between Haydn and Mozart", though the documentation of the occasions in which the two composers played or heard quartets or other chamber music together is slim. One report of such an occasion comes from the Reminiscences (1826) of the tenor Michael Kelly.

        "Storace gave a quartet party to his friends. The players were tolerable; not one of them excelled on the instrument he played, but there was a little science among them, which I dare say will be acknowledged when I name them:

        First Violin: Haydn
        Second Violin: Baron Dittersdorf
        Violoncello: Vanhal
        Viola: Mozart.

        I was there, and a greater treat, or a more remarkable one, cannot be imagined."
        Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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        • MickyD
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 4811

          #5
          Donald Macleod included this quote in the first programme of this week, Flay.

          I have just begun programme four and am really impressed by the quality of the man's music, particularly in the symphonies. A pity that the recordings by Concerto Koln didn't get a look in - their disc is the most exciting of all I have heard.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #6
            Originally posted by MickyD View Post
            ... A pity that the recordings by Concerto Koln didn't get a look in - their disc is the most exciting of all I have heard.
            Indeed, I find the Concerto Köln 6CD boxed set a real treasure trove. Disc 4 was my introduction to Vanhal's work.

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            • MickyD
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4811

              #7
              Yes, a wonderful collection, Bryn - I paid a lot more when I bought the discs separately. I love all of them, but the Vanhal is my favourite.

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              • richardfinegold
                Full Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 7737

                #8
                Naxos released several discs of Vanhal and I have most of them.
                As for the Composer, I find him wonderfully inventive, if occasionally a bit formulaic.
                As regards the recordings, as usual with Naxos one is grateful that they were released at all, but leaves one wondering how one's perception of the Composer would change with better performers and more adequate rehearsal time.

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                • MickyD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4811

                  #9
                  Indeed, Richard...in my opinion, a missed opportunity not to have those rare symphonies performed by period bands.

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                  • doversoul1
                    Ex Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7132

                    #10
                    I very much enjoyed Sonata In B Flat Major For Clarinet And Piano on today’s programme. It sounded just right for the fortepiano.

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12936

                      #11
                      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                      I very much enjoyed Sonata In B Flat Major For Clarinet And Piano on today’s programme. It sounded just right for the fortepiano.
                      ... yes, I thought it was particularly lovely.

                      So much so, that I felt it wd be nice to have the CD : but I have been a bit put-off by the price...

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