Schumann and his literary inspiration

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  • aeolium
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3992

    Schumann and his literary inspiration

    I like the idea of a CotW based around the literary influences on a composer. I thought it would have been a good idea for an R3 special evening - in the days when they did such things - to have had a series of programmes based around the early Romantic movement in Germany, incorporating poetry readings and discussions about writers and painters, framing the music of the composers who responded to these extra-musical ideas. After all, doesn't it help when listening to, say, Schumann's Manfred overture to know something about the Byron poem, to hear something from it?

    It's interesting to compare the powerful response of composers of this period to the famous writers with the rather indifferent response of the writers to the musical settings they inspired. Goethe failed to acknowledge Schubert's songs inspired by his poems, and Heine failed to acknowledge Schumann's work. Was this cold response partly due to a justifiable suspicion that the power of the music might in some cases overwhelm the poetry, so that it was the song and not the poem that everyone remembered? Would Heine's Lyrisches Intermezzo be well-known now but for the Dichterliebe?

    Donald Macleod discusses early enthusiasms, including Lord Byron and Jean-Paul Richter.
  • gurnemanz
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7445

    #2
    When teacher training umpteen years ago we had to show we could use the sound recording set-up to make an original piece of audio. Three of us took this task very seriously and joined together to make a Late Night Line-up style interview (that dates it) involving Heinrich Heine (me), Robert Schumann (my friend, a clever chap who also wrote the script) and Joan Bakewell (another friend who actually bore some resemblance the the cult interviewista of the time). Rather pretentious, maybe, but great fun to do and at a pinch might actually have been used when teaching German Romantic poets to an A level class. No idea what happened to it. Schumann and Heine did actually meet.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26601

      #3
      Originally posted by aeolium View Post
      I like the idea of a CotW based around the literary influences on a composer


      The ever-triumphant R3 website list of music played in today's programme is surprising, though...



      Robert Schumann
      11 Songs for voice and piano - Die Weinende (The Weeping Woman)
      Performer: Christoph Eschenbach. Singer: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.

      Sibelius
      Nocturne, Suite from King Christian II, Op. 27
      Orchestra: Iceland Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Petri Sakari.



      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • aeolium
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3992

        #4
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        The ever-triumphant R3 website list of music played in today's programme is surprising, though...




        Sibelius
        Nocturne, Suite from King Christian II, Op. 27
        Orchestra: Iceland Symphony Orchestra. Conductor: Petri Sakari.




        Well, at least there is a literary influence for the Sibelius...

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30652

          #5
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post


          The ever-triumphant R3 website list of music played in today's programme is surprising, though...



          Robert Schumann
          11 Songs for voice and piano - Die Weinende (The Weeping Woman)
          Performer: Christoph Eschenbach. Singer: Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.

          Sibelius
          Nocturne, Suite from King Christian II, Op. 27

          Did they only play two pieces - the Schumann at midday and the Sibelius at one minute past?

          I agree - I'd love to see the 'evenings' restored with a rounded look at a particular topic. Perhaps this is just the kind of 'context' that the new controller would approve of?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26601

            #6
            I heard the Fantasie in C... and no Sibelius !!

            But it's true - there's now no playlist at all on the webpage.

            They've obviously got the Christmas holiday student interns in early.....

            "cool yeah that's cool yeah no worries"



            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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