Lord Berners (1883-1950) - 1-5 December

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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37855

    Lord Berners (1883-1950) - 1-5 December

    The choice of Lord Berners as COTW, is surely a welcome departure from the usual suspects.

    A British composer with an aristocratic pedigree - or should that be pretentions? - but one of the few of his time (the others being Bliss, Lambert, Walton and maybe Brian) who, at any rate briefly, broke with the post-Vaughan Williams/Delius aesthetic options and went for what France, post-Debussy, and Italy, post-Puccini, had to offer... or so it seems.

    Was Berners the one figure who remained faithful to those cross-Channel connections?

    Are we going to find out?

    Discuss?
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    one of the few of his time (the others being Bliss, Lambert, Walton and maybe Brian) who, at any rate briefly, broke with the post-Vaughan Williams/Delius aesthetic options and went for what France, post-Debussy, and Italy, post-Puccini, had to offer... or so it seems.

    Was Berners the one figure who remained faithful to those cross-Channel connections?
    John Foulds?


    Berners was Stravinsky's favourite "living Brit".
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Despina dello Stagno
      Full Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 84

      #3
      Are congratulations due to Random House for a what seems a most successful product placement from their Christmas booklist.?

      The Mad Boy, Lord Berners, My Grandmother and Me : An Aristocratic Family, a High-Society Scandal and an Extraordinary Legacy by Zinovieff, Sofka and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available now at AbeBooks.co.uk.


      This sort of behaviour seems m ore appropriate to the TV chat shows than to COTW.

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25231

        #4
        Originally posted by Despina dello Stagno View Post
        Are congratulations due to Random House for a what seems a most successful product placement from their Christmas booklist.?

        The Mad Boy, Lord Berners, My Grandmother and Me : An Aristocratic Family, a High-Society Scandal and an Extraordinary Legacy by Zinovieff, Sofka and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available now at AbeBooks.co.uk.


        This sort of behaviour seems m ore appropriate to the TV chat shows than to COTW.
        looks more than a bit coincidental.

        Good spot, DdS.

        interesting stuff, in any case though.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #5
          Will the infamous Gavin Bryars quote re. the good lord comment get a mention, I wonder:

          "If he had spent more time on his music he could have become a duller composer"

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          • Despina dello Stagno
            Full Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 84

            #6
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Will the infamous Gavin Bryars quote re. the good lord comment get a mention, I wonder:

            "If he had spent more time on his music he could have become a duller composer"
            Time that he spent (partly) building his folly tower (A.K.A. Lord Berners' monstrous erection) on which he put the notice "Those committing suicide from this building do so at their own risk". H&S was with us even in them days.

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              Hmm. Earlier today the online schedule carried the massage that programme would be available on the iPlayer soon ofter broadcast. The message has now been changed to "Sorry, this episode is not currently available on BBC iPlayer Radio".

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              • StatMallard
                Full Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 12

                #8
                Wednesday afternoon and still no sign of the Lord Burners programmes appearing on the Iplayer. Am I missing something (apart from the programmes!) or has there been an issue / flagged up about non-availabilty?

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #9
                  I reported the lack of the first episode via https://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/forms . It's a decidedly convoluted process and so far all I have had is an acknowledgement of receipt of my report. No sign of it appearing as an issue currently under investigation. This despite it being announced after each evening repeat that the programmes would be available in High Definition Sound for the next 7 days.

                  I will try raising the issue again via a fault report dealing with the 2nd programme. Perhaps others could do likewise?

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Last week's Lord Berners programmes have now been made available via the on demand feature of the iPlayer.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37855

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Last week's Lord Berners programmes have now been made available via the on demand feature of the iPlayer.
                      Thanks Bryn.

                      Berners's turned out to be an interesting journey, if one which, like that of the french composer Henri Sauguet (mentioned in one of the programmes), saw an early rebellious creativity somewhat dulled in later years.

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