COTW w/c 02/06/14 - Weinberg

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  • richardfinegold
    Full Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 7870

    #16
    I have several discs by him, with all the various spellings of his name. Fwiw, his Cello Music both solo and concertante is what appeals to me the most.
    There is a fascinating recording of Shostakovich and Weinberg performing DSCH 10th Symphony on 2 Pianos. They were friends and apparently the Compositional influences went in both directions. Shostakovich apparently was able to use his influence to free Weinberg from Lubyanka Prison, where he had landed during one of Stalin's anti Semitic purges.

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    • Don Petter

      #17
      The only substantial work I have by him is his Clarinet Quintet, Op.40, which appears on a double CPO CD set called Esquisses Hébraïques - Clarinet Quintets on Jewish Themes (CPO 999630-2).

      It must be a few years since I've listened to the set. Must search it out (might be easier said than done!) and give it a spin.

      That is what R3 should be all about, sending you off to explore new musical paths.

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #18
        Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
        There is a fascinating recording of Shostakovich and Weinberg performing DSCH 10th Symphony on 2 Pianos.
        I have that on vinyl, and also from YouTube. I don't think it have yet made it to CD. A wonderful document.

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7870

          #19
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          I have that on vinyl, and also from YouTube. I don't think it have yet made it to CD. A wonderful document.
          I think it was available on CD, at least over here, although I never owned it. I've heard excerpts from it, and thanks for the information about YouTube .

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          • EdgeleyRob
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12180

            #20
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            I have that on vinyl, and also from YouTube. I don't think it have yet made it to CD. A wonderful document.
            It is,hairs on the back of the neck stuff.

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #21
              Been listening to these programme. What a composer Weinberg was!
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #22
                Donald Macleod was talking about him on Today on Radio 4 this morning (Yes, you didn't misread that!)

                It's here, at about 2' 20" in.

                Morning news and current affairs. Includes Sports Desk; Weather; Thought for the Day.


                (It would have helped if the presenter hadn't laughed after playing a bit of his music.)

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                Last edited by jean; 02-06-14, 09:51.

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                • jean
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7100

                  #23
                  The first performance of his Requiem was given in Liverpool in 2009.

                  Hope University/Philharmonic Hall, LiverpoolOnly Mieczysław Weinberg would have thought of including electric bass and guitar and interpolating his opera Lady Magnesia with outbreaks of Soviet-style jazz-fusion, writes Alfred Hickling




                  I wish I'd liked it better.


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                  Last edited by jean; 02-06-14, 09:45.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 38094

                    #24
                    Wonderful solid, beautifully conceived stuff today from a composer totally new to me, so thanks to all for the pre-alerts. I don't hear much that was "Russian" about Weinberg - which I suppose shouldn't surprise - more a Late Romantic Germanic composer in a kind of Mahler/Zemlinsky tradition, if there be one (and it seems the more we get to discover the more there could well be), who seems to have imbibed some early Hindemith, as Shostakovitch also did.

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25279

                      #25
                      good and interesting start to the week. The Piano Quintet sounded well worth further investigation.....shot to the top of my "To do " list.

                      The songs for children probably wouldn't accord with some peoples idea of what modern parenting should involve, but sounded excellent !
                      The childrens notebook pieces also fascinating, and well worth hearing> I thought there was a distinct DSCH feel, but at least one critic doesn't think so.

                      Great to have some R3 programmes to be really looking forward to.

                      (as an afterthought, can DM REALLY have been unaware of Weinbergs work until recently?!)
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        Great to have some R3 programmes to be really looking forward to.


                        (as an afterthought, can DM REALLY have been unaware of Weinbergs work until recently?!)
                        On the R4 interview, he said that he'd been aware of Weinberg's name, but hadn't heard any until recently. Matches my own experience - mainly down to EdgeleyRob's advocacy.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12180

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post



                          On the R4 interview, he said that he'd been aware of Weinberg's name, but hadn't heard any until recently. Matches my own experience - mainly down to EdgeleyRob's advocacy.
                          Suffolkcoastal and his symphonic journey deserve the credit for the forum Weinberg revival Ferney.
                          Same here,I was vaguely aware of the name but had never knowingly heard a note of the music until he appeared on those threads,that's when my obsession began.
                          Thank you sc and Radio 3.

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                          • EdgeleyRob
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            Wonderful solid, beautifully conceived stuff today from a composer totally new to me, so thanks to all for the pre-alerts. I don't hear much that was "Russian" about Weinberg - which I suppose shouldn't surprise - more a Late Romantic Germanic composer in a kind of Mahler/Zemlinsky tradition, if there be one (and it seems the more we get to discover the more there could well be), who seems to have imbibed some early Hindemith, as Shostakovitch also did.
                            Some of the string quartets remind me of Bartok at times too.

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                            • David-G
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1216

                              #29
                              Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                              Mieczyslav Weinberg is the same person as Moisei (Moishei) Vainberg: presumably the different spellings reflect the difficulties of turning Polish into English. As Vainberg, I have one work by him, his trumpet concerto in B flat major op. 94. It will be interesting to hear some of his other works.
                              Moishei Vainberg sounds to me like Yiddish - which would probably have been his native language.

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                              • EdgeleyRob
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12180

                                #30
                                Wonderful,evocative,to me,Clarinet Sonata.

                                Orchestras should really take up the Rhapsody on Moldavian Themes,it's a bit of a showpiece.

                                They are on youtube.

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