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  • Lento
    Full Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 646

    #61
    In Tom Service's article he states "The journey from Brahms’s First Symphony to his Fourth is from optimism to pessimism". Isn't this a bit of a generalisation? The beginning of Brahms 1 is hardly sweetness and light, one would have thought.

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    • hafod
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 740

      #62
      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
      Indeed. A snip at £7.21, not like those £100+ 'bargains' that get posted. Tho' I expect many forum members own them already.
      I would have thought that 60p a disc was a 'bargain'. If they do own it already, then they almost certainly paid a lot more than £100 for it. I see it as a resource to dip into over an extended period of time and particularly when downloads largely take over - a route I have no wish to take.

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      • Sir Velo
        Full Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 3233

        #63
        Originally posted by Lento View Post
        In Tom Service's article he states "The journey from Brahms’s First Symphony to his Fourth is from optimism to pessimism".
        Give us strength! There's a touch more to Brahms 4 than pessimism as well. Possibly, an inexorable, unyielding fate; but only pessimism? Surely a touch simplistic.

        And what about Brahms 2 and 3, are they supposed to be intervening steps on the continuum from optimism to pessimism, with the second slightly more optimistic than the third?

        AAMONI, I've just re-read Richard Osborne's notes to the Gilels set of Brahms PCs: a model of elegantly written prose; illuminating, intelligent and without the seemingly all pervasive need to come up with a soundbite.

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        • Thropplenoggin
          Full Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1587

          #64
          Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
          Give us strength! There's a touch more to Brahms 4 than pessimism as well. Possibly, an inexorable, unyielding fate; but only pessimism? Surely a touch simplistic.

          And what about Brahms 2 and 3, are they supposed to be intervening steps on the continuum from optimism to pessimism, with the second slightly more optimistic than the third?

          AAMONI, I've just re-read Richard Osborne's notes to the Gilels set of Brahms PCs: a model of elegantly written prose; illuminating, intelligent and without the seemingly all pervasive need to come up with a soundbite.
          You really should read the article in full, SV. There's more to it than the hook of its first line.
          Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 14-05-14, 16:56.
          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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          • Sir Velo
            Full Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 3233

            #65
            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            You really should read the article in full, SV.
            Are you suggesting that I might have been a bit precipitate in my response?

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            • Thropplenoggin
              Full Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1587

              #66
              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
              Are you suggesting that I might have been a bit precipitate in my response?
              Sir, it's almost as if you had read the maxim inscribed on the Temple of Apollo at Delphi: Know Thyself!
              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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