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  • gurnemanz
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7360

    #46
    Originally posted by Roehre View Post
    Guess who nicked this melody? The same guy who used Bruch's grand melody from his violin concerto again in an Alpine setting: Richard Strauss. Brahms returns in the pompous Festliches Präludium op.61 from 1913
    I've just listened on YouTube (E Power Biggs + L. Bernstein are suitably pompous). Not a work I will return to that often. I kept thinking of Parry's "I Was Glad" (which actually came first).

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    • Roehre

      #47
      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
      I've just listened on YouTube (E Power Biggs + L. Bernstein are suitably pompous). Not a work I will return to that often. I kept thinking of Parry's "I Was Glad" (which actually came first).
      No. Once every 10 years suffices for me, I'm afraid.
      I stick to the Brahms original, which is an impressive piece by any means ( I prefer the sextet version)

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      • gradus
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        • Nov 2010
        • 5586

        #48
        From the LSO website to YouTube re Brahms:

        What is it about Brahms that can polarise people? LSO players and Conductor Laureate André Previn tell us why they just can't get enough of him, despite Tcha...

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        • gmw
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          • Mar 2013
          • 13

          #49
          Works in my case

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          • Lento
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            • Jan 2014
            • 646

            #50
            [QUOTEthe wonderful Clarinet Quintet, or the Horn Trio.[/QUOTE]

            The sad beauty of the opening of the Horn trio strikes me as being "as good as it gets", pretty much. The trio benefits from being less frequently heard (I think) than the Clarinet Quintet, which, unfortunately for some of us, was a firm favourite of the examining boards as an A level "set work" in the 1970s!

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            • Sir Velo
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              • Oct 2012
              • 3217

              #51
              Originally posted by gmw View Post
              Works in my case
              I suppose that largely depends on the size of your case.

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              • pastoralguy
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7687

                #52
                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                By coincidence, we went to an excellent Imogen Cooper solo recital in Reading Concert Hall last night which included Schubert D960 and Schumann's First Sonata. One of the other items was his arrangement of the Op 18 Andante. I did not previously know it existed (done for Clara, of course) and notice that she included it on a recent Chandos disc.
                I picked up a cd of a pianist called Marie-Joseph Jude playing this op. 18 Theme and variations movement coupled with the op. 2 sonata and the Variations on a theme of Schumann. Very good playing IMHO.

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                • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9173

                  #53
                  Tom Service on Brahms 4th Symphony in his Graun blog - good essay imho
                  According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #54
                    Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                    Tom Service on Brahms 4th Symphony in his Graun blog - good essay imho
                    Starts of in classic Grauniad style:

                    This symphony might a reliable and over-familiar staple on concert programmes, but listen to it with fresh ears.

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                    • Roehre

                      #55
                      Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                      Tom Service on Brahms 4th Symphony in his Graun blog - good essay imho
                      Interesting observations indeed.
                      Thanks aCDJ

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37361

                        #56
                        Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                        Tom Service on Brahms 4th Symphony in his Graun blog - good essay imho
                        Where Service writes, "What you can't escape is that the expressive integrity that you have in the Fourth Symphony is a direct result of the density of it's compositional thinking" he's summarising what I most love about the sort of ideal Brahms's music represents for me, and those following his example, such as Schoenberg, uniting thought and feeling non-dualistically, so to speak.

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                        • ahinton
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16122

                          #57
                          This seems to me to represent a massive improvement in the quality of Service provided, compared to some of that to which his readers and listeners have become accustomed - really insightful in many ways; I recall (though I cannot now find the interview text in which it originated) that Elliott Carter one claimed that "the most radical work an American composer could write would be one like Brahms’s Fourth Symphony, which assumed the most highly developed musical culture in its listeners"...

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                          • Thropplenoggin
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1587

                            #58
                            Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                            Tom Service on Brahms 4th Symphony in his Graun blog - good essay imho
                            I enjoyed this piece, too. Service writes with more lucidity than he presents (or interviews).

                            I dug out my Klemperer/Philharmonia Orchestra 4th which, combined with Legge's recording production skills, makes for an exhilirating listen.
                            It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                            • amateur51

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                              I enjoyed this piece, too. Service writes with more lucidity than he presents (or interviews).

                              I dug out my Klemperer/Philharmonia Orchestra 4th which, combined with Legge's recording production skills, makes for an exhilirating listen.
                              This the one you were listening to only yesterday afternoon over on the Bargains thread, Throppers?

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                              • Thropplenoggin
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                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1587

                                #60
                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                This the one you were listening to only yesterday afternoon over on the Bargains thread, Throppers?
                                Indeed. A snip at £7.21, not like those £100+ 'bargains' that get posted. Tho' I expect many forum members own them already.
                                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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