20thC composers in their own words: new series on BBC4 TV

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37710

    #16
    Originally posted by Radio64 View Post
    Thanks
    But why the ? After all, you did ask! I hadn't heard of half of them, mind!

    I'd just add Sally Beamish to the above lists.
    Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 05-03-14, 14:04.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #17
      Originally posted by Radio64 View Post
      Thanks
      Shortlist:

      Ferneyhough, Barrett, RSaunders, Sciarrino, Lachenmann, Hinton.


      BeefO - Alexandrj Leonovich Warczorskiew is superb, but I can't find anything on youTube
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Beef Oven!
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        • Sep 2013
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        #18
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        BeefO - Alexandrj Leonovich Warczorskiew is superb, but I can't find anything on youTube


        How about Julian Leonovich Warczorskiew, too?

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        • Roehre

          #19
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Shortlist:

          Ferneyhough, Barrett, RSaunders, Sciarrino, Lachenmann, Hinton.


          BeefO - Alexandrj Leonovich Warczorskiew is superb, but I can't find anything on youTube


          I am really surprised you mention Ferneyhough
          Are you absolutely sure

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            How about Julian Leonovich Warczorskiew, too?
            Oh, yes: I'd forgotten the Bazouki virtuoso twin brother. Such a terribly sad story; conscripted by a deaf recruiting sargeant into Ethnic Instrument Heavy Artillery Squad, all would have been well, but for a "friendly" play-off with the Royal Highland Bagpipe Infantry and a freak accident with a loose chanter. (They say his compositions were even better than his brother's!)




            I tell you what - this new medication is BRILLIANT!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Boilk
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              • Dec 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              Yep, but we're only in year 15 of the C21, so who knows!?
              Unless the Christian calendar began with the year zero, I think we're in year 14.

              I do hope there is some banter from either Milton Babbitt or Elliott Carter in this mini-series. Though judging by the episode 1 précis, it seems to be rather Euro-centric.

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
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                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Oh, yes: I'd forgotten the Bazouki virtuoso twin brother. Such a terribly sad story; conscripted by a deaf recruiting sargeant into Ethnic Instrument Heavy Artillery Squad, all would have been well, but for a "friendly" play-off with the Royal Highland Bagpipe Infantry and a freak accident with a loose chanter. (They say his compositions were even better than his brother's!)




                I tell you what - this new medication is BRILLIANT!

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                  Unless the Christian calendar began with the year zero, I think we're in year 14.
                  No, year fourteen was completed last year in 2013, and we are now in year 15. Please pay attention.

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                  • Boilk
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 976

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    No, year fourteen was completed last year in 2013, and we are now in year 15. Please pay attention.


                    Beefy, since the 21st century began on 1st January 2001 (it was the 2000s that began on 1st January 2000) we will not be in "year 15 of the C21" until 2015 ... so it's detention after class for you

                    Perhaps a visit to a certain page at Wikipedia is in order?

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                    • MrGongGong
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Boilk View Post


                      Beefy, since the 21st century began on 1st January 2001 (it was the 2000s that began on 1st January 2000) we will not be in "year 15 of the C21" until 2015 ... so it's detention after class for you

                      Perhaps a visit to a certain page at Wikipedia is in order?


                      yeah yeah yeah

                      BUT

                      The SIGNIFICANT bit is when you change what you write
                      The year 2000 WAS the start of something NEW because that's what it felt like !

                      When my car did 100000 miles I noticed it, I didn't wait to 1000001 for me to think that I had THEN been a significant distance............

                      Beefy is in the 1950's anyway (all that synth music to come )

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                      • Beef Oven!
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                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Boilk View Post


                        Beefy, since the 21st century began on 1st January 2001 (it was the 2000s that began on 1st January 2000) we will not be in "year 15 of the C21" until 2015 ... so it's detention after class for you

                        Perhaps a visit to a certain page at Wikipedia is in order?
                        Come on, stop it.

                        01/01/00 was the first day of the new millennium, the 21st one. 14 years have elapsed since then. We are in the 15th year as we speak.

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                        • Beef Oven!
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                          • Sep 2013
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                          yeah yeah yeah

                          BUT

                          The SIGNIFICANT bit is when you change what you write
                          The year 2000 WAS the start of something NEW because that's what it felt like !

                          When my car did 100000 miles I noticed it, I didn't wait to 1000001 for me to think that I had THEN been a significant distance............

                          Beefy is in the 1950's anyway (all that synth music to come )
                          I was not even born in the 1950s!

                          Btw, I've got you a belated birthday present. A personalised bottle of whiskey

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                          • teamsaint
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            please be careful if you are posting about pieces composed in the year 2000.

                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • ahinton
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              I was not even born in the 1950s!
                              Put like that, it could be taken to mean that you were born before the 1950s but I'm sure that this wasn't the case and wasn't what you meant.

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              Btw, I've got you a belated birthday present. A personalised bottle of whiskey

                              I'm sure that this was most generous of you, but it raises two questions in my mind. Firstly, the personalisation aspect of it puzzles me, for two reasons, in that not only had I no idea that MrGG is really Mr Small, Mr Batch or even Mr Creek (a relative of Jonathan of that ilk, peut-ĂȘtre?) but I can also barely bring myself to believe that he is aged 9 - such unprecedented precocity! - secondly, I cannot imagine that anyone would want a present of whisky that has an E in it (and I find references to E numbers especially surprising coming from someone who believes himself to be an inhabitant of "EUSSR")...

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                              • Beef Oven!
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                                • Sep 2013
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                                Put like that, it could be taken to mean that you were born before the 1950s but I'm sure that this wasn't the case and wasn't what you meant.


                                I'm sure that this was most generous of you, but it raises two questions in my mind. Firstly, the personalisation aspect of it puzzles me, for two reasons, in that not only had I no idea that MrGG is really Mr Small, Mr Batch or even Mr Creek (a relative of Jonathan of that ilk, peut-ĂȘtre?) but I can also barely bring myself to believe that he is aged 9 - such unprecedented precocity! - secondly, I cannot imagine that anyone would want a present of whisky that has an E in it (and I find references to E numbers especially surprising coming from someone who believes himself to be an inhabitant of "EUSSR")...
                                MrGG's Christian name is in bold on the label. Nothing to do with Creek etc, and we're talking mental age (when discussing politics ).

                                My preference is Scotch whisky, but our young American cousins (and others that should know better (the Irish, for example) like an 'E' with their whisky).

                                The Canadians can spell, but they're ethnic Scots anyway.

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