Problem Works By Composers You Love

[Beef Oven!]

The thing about Stockhausen as opposed to Beethoven is that he DID spend large parts of his life travelling all over the world and did hear many other musics but chose, in this piece to use national anthems as representative of the musics of the world.
I'm not sure of the chronology but wonder whether he wrote this before or after visiting Asia ?


Thanks for this
interesting thoughts and will probably make me revisit the piece

The thing is, it's all relative.

Glad you are going to rethink

[MrGongGong]

The thing is, it's all relative.

Glad you are going to rethink

Don't tell your mates that

[Serial_Apologist]

The thing about Stockhausen as opposed to Beethoven is that he DID spend large parts of his life travelling all over the world and did hear many other musics but chose, in this piece to use national anthems as representative of the musics of the world.
I'm not sure of the chronology but wonder whether he wrote this before or after visiting Asia ?

More or less synonymously with, or slightly after creating "Telemusik", of which he spoke of the essentialness of tradition, and I remember wondering, what does he mean? And of course there's much more base materials than "western" national anthems in "Hymnen", too.

[Serial_Apologist]

Don't tell your mates that

Have they seen his record collection?

[Barbirollians]

Having sat down with the Emerson quartet's recordings yesterday I am delighted to have been converted to Brahms' s string quartets !

[Beef Oven!]

Don't tell your mates that

I don't get that :sad face: What do you mean?

[MrGongGong]

I don't get that :sad face: What do you mean?

That it's all relative

and as SA says, once they find your Combichrist collection then it's Bloomsday for you too

[Beef Oven!]

That it's all relative

and as SA says, once they find your Combichrist collection then it's Bloomsday for you too

I still don't get it

Why shouldn't I tell my mates that 'it's all relative'????

Edit: The only people that have a prolem with Combichrist are Muisli-boy and the moderator!

[Petrushka]

Anyone noticed that the Radio 3 Live in Concert this week has obliged by including two of our 'problem' pieces together in Wednesday's relay (Feb 26) Brahms Double Concerto and Bruckner 2? Meanwhile on Friday we can try to solve the enigma that is the Beethoven Triple.

[cloughie]

Anyone noticed that the Radio 3 Live in Concert this week has obliged by including two of our 'problem' pieces together in Wednesday's relay (Feb 26) Brahms Double Concerto and Bruckner 2? Meanwhile on Friday we can try to solve the enigma that is the Beethoven Triple.

On the subject of Bruckner 2 - how has this one evolved? Were Pinnock and Payne in the pub....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruckner-Symphonie-Anthony-Payne-players/dp/B00I8Q2U9C/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1393364707&sr=1-1&keywords=bruckner+pinnock

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Meanwhile on Friday we can try to solve the enigma that is the Beethoven Triple.

Unmissable.

[Ferretfancy]

Unmissable.

I'll be there ferney, and I'll try not to cough!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Anyone noticed that the Radio 3 Live in Concert this week has obliged by including two of our 'problem' pieces together in Wednesday's relay (Feb 26) Brahms Double Concerto and Bruckner 2? Meanwhile on Friday we can try to solve the enigma that is the Beethoven Triple.

A classical concerto first movement generally has two expositions - one for the orchestra alone, which ends in the tonic key, followed by a second exposition which is dominated by the soloist, who establishes the new key. However, there are effectively four expositions in this work, so we are taken round the houses a little before reaching the development section.