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  • Ferretfancy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3487

    It's an oldie,I know, but what's the difference between an oboe and an oboe d'amore?

    Answer ;- Half a guinea a night.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
      The word is indeed often used to describe a similar effect produced by alternative fingerings of the same pitch on woodwind instruments.
      .
      Do you think of this as different to an enharmonic trill so beloved of the ECM Sax fraternity ? (I used to know someone who had programmed his reverb with a setting called "Garbareks Bathroom")

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16123

        Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
        It's an oldie,I know, but what's the difference between an oboe and an oboe d'amore?

        Answer ;- Half a guinea a night.
        Indeed, its age is given away by the sum!

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        • Richard Barrett
          Guest
          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          It used to be the case that some British orchestras would employ "rank and file" violinists, who would take turns between Firsts and Seconds, changing between concerts/programmes. I don't know how widespread this practice ever was or if it still exists.

          Not sure what the situation is in Quartets - I think most have permanent First and Second "chairs".
          In most (by no means all) orchestras someone is employed as a first or a second violinist and stays there. If a place becomes vacant there will be auditions, which of course existing orchestra members can compete in, if it involves a step from seconds to firsts, or from rank and file to principal or co-principal of the section. String quartets are a bit different. Most stay in the same order permanently. Others (the Emersons being a prominent example) exchange violinists for different pieces in a programme.

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          • Flay
            Full Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 5795

            Thanks for the replies. No doubt the same applies to woodwind. But brass seem somewhat different, especially the horn sections. I'm never sure who's leading them. Perhaps it doesn’t matter
            Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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            • Pabmusic
              Full Member
              • May 2011
              • 5537

              Originally posted by Flay View Post
              Thanks for the replies. No doubt the same applies to woodwind. But brass seem somewhat different, especially the horn sections. I'm never sure who's leading them. Perhaps it doesn’t matter
              With horns, you ought to expect two types (I can almost hear the wrath of our horn players rumbling away). There are those that are more 'expert' in the upper range, and those good at grumbling in the depths. The former will usually be horns 1 & 3, the latter, horns 2 & 4.

              There won't be a section leader comparable to the case with the violins. The principal horn will no doubt have a preference as to seating (1 & 3 in front. 2 & 4 behind?).

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              • ahinton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 16123

                If some would have their way, many of the questions that have been asked in this thread might no longer be deemed to be of importance...

                [Addendum: See my follow-up article to this, ‘The insidious class divide in music teaching’, The Conversation, 17 May 2017]   An article in The Guardian by Charlotte C. Gill (&#821…


                Some members here have already signed, as have hundreds of others as diverse as Simon Rattle, Marc-André Hamelin, Michael Nyman, the Matthewses, Stephen Hough, Unsuk Chin, James Galway, Brian Ferneyhough, Jonathan Powell, James McMillan, Andrew McGregor, Jane Manning and Anthony Payne; might I invite more members to consider doing so?

                As you were...
                Last edited by ahinton; 07-04-17, 11:46.

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                  If some would have their way, many of the questions that have been asked in this thread might no longer be deemed to be of importance...

                  [Addendum: See my follow-up article to this, ‘The insidious class divide in music teaching’, The Conversation, 17 May 2017]   An article in The Guardian by Charlotte C. Gill (&#821…


                  Some members here have already signed, as have hundreds of others as diverse as Simon Rattle, Marc-André Hamelin, Michael Nyman, the Matthewses, Stephen Hough, Unsuk Chin, James Galway, Brian Ferneyhough, Jonathan Powell, James McMillan, Andrew McGregor, Jane Manning and Anthony Payne; might I invite more members to consider doing so?

                  As you were...
                  It is interesting how this has touched a nerve with some folks

                  It was a rather badly written and daft article in the first place IMV

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    It was a rather badly written and daft article in the first place IMV
                    - my immediate reaction was that it was an April 1st Spoof.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16123

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      - my immediate reaction was that it was an April 1st Spoof.
                      Mine, too, until I realised that is had been published five days earlier...

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        It is interesting how this has touched a nerve with some folks

                        It was a rather badly written and daft article in the first place IMV
                        That's probably the very best that could be said about it!

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                        • Richard Barrett
                          Guest
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          an enharmonic trill so beloved of the ECM Sax fraternity ?
                          I'm rather fond of them myself to be honest. (the trills not the ECM sax fraternity)(with one or two exceptions)

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

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                            • Richard Barrett
                              Guest
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 6259

                              What a pathetic question.

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                                What a pathetic question.
                                To you maybe!

                                The real question concerns why anyone would want to wear a t-shirt like that!

                                He must be very good at making pancakes

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