Musical questions and answers thread

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

a sudden feeling of deja vu, I may have asked that question before in this thread and you answered me then too It was tonight's prom that made me think of it

I don't remember doing so, mercs ... but at 644 posts, I'll take your word for it!

[teamsaint]

Listening to the Rachmaninov Paganini fantasy the other night, and specifically the inverted variation, led me to thinking about the copyright issues that there might be, if a composer did the same thing today.

So if a contemporary composer inverted somebody else's tune and then used it without acknowledging the original source, would there be a potential case for the composer of the original tune, assuming it was still in copyright? Or if the composer of the piece who used the inverted tune did acknowledge the source, might there be royalty payments due ?

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[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

A "contemporary composer" writing a "tune"???!!! Wash your keyboard out with soap!

[teamsaint]

A "contemporary composer" writing a "tune"???!!! Wash your keyboard out with soap!

I could have said " song" ...that usually does it for GG.....

( glad you reminded me though, this screen needs a good scrub down. Must get some Brillo....)

Oh, and thanks for the help , BTW.

[french frank]

The thing is that in them days the composer often composed the tune he was varying, and if he didn't there was no copyright anyway.

As for nowadays, on the Lionel Sawkins basis a sufficient reworking claims its own copyright from the original.

[Lat-Literal]

Officially who are the national composers of the following countries - and why?

(a) England
(b) Scotland
(c) Wales
(d) N Ireland
(e) Britain
(f) Rep of Ire

[Serial_Apologist]

Officially who are the national composers of the following countries - and why?

(a) England
(b) Scotland
(c) Wales
(d) N Ireland
(e) Britain
(f) Rep of Ire

(a) Vaughan Williams - because after him came rock'n'roll which was American, then came multiculturalism which is internationalist, and then Nigel Farage, who isn't and who as far as I know doesn't compose.

(b) Sir Peter Maxwell Davies - because who else today is composing modern Scottish classical music, unless we include that Catholic bloke?

(c) Boyce, a different Max.

(d) Brian Irvine - because he's good and a mate of mine has been featured with him.

(e) Elgar - because he made Little Britain seem great when our forbears ignored most of the downsides?

(f) ...pass

[vinteuil]

Officially who are the national composers of the following countries - and why?

(a) England
(b) Scotland
(c) Wales
(d) N Ireland
(e) Britain
(f) Rep of Ire

(a) Pelham Humfrey
(b) Thomas Erskine 6th Earl of Kellie
(c) Thomas Tomkins
(d) Ruaidri Dáll Ó Catháin
(e) William Lawes
(f) John Field

[MrGongGong]

Officially who are the national composers of the following countries - and why?

"Officially"?

According to?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

(b) Sir Peter Maxwell Davies - because who else today is composing modern Scottish classical music, unless we include that Catholic bloke?

James Dillon.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

a) John Dunstable
b) Robert Carver
c) Richard Barrett
d) erm ...
e) is "Britain" a "nation"?
f) dunno

[Serial_Apologist]

James Dillon.

Well OK! I was thinking more vernacular - but maybe Dillon is!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Well OK! I was thinking more vernacular - but maybe Dillon is!

Depends whose vernacular!

[Lat-Literal]

Some interesting posts here.

Surely in the US it is Copland and in Brazil it is Villa-Lobos?

Maybe the Europeans are less sure about this sort of thing?

[Pabmusic]

Officially who are the national composers of the following countries - and why?

(a) England
(b) Scotland
(c) Wales
(d) N Ireland
(e) Britain
(f) Rep of Ire

There are no 'official' composers, other than the Masters of the Queen's (King's) Music(k). Let's hope there never are.

Now if you mean the 'most representative' there's possibly room for discussion.