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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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amateur51
Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostOr even "Es muss sein"? The reference is to the superscriptio at the head of the finale Beethoven's F major String Quartet, Op 135, but I suspect that anamesis is also pointing out the notation of this motto (G - E - Ab) with its diminished fourth, as well as its cousinship with the Shostakovich theme that I mentioned a few posts ago (and which I hadn't previously been aware: that "daa-dee-DADADA" over the F double sharp pedal a referencing of bars 5 - 12 of the Beethoven finale (just before the Allegro begins).
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Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View PostWhat exactly is a chamber orchestra ?
Is it simply down to the number of musicians involved,do they bring in extra troops for the bigger works ?
Is there repertoire that couldn't be programmed by a co ?
Apparently Bruckner is not out of bounds.
I'd thought it was the orchestral equivalent of a chamber choir - a smaller group (in terms of amateur choirs, usually of an especially high standard). I'd be interested to know the exact answer too. Would the SCO have been augmented to perform the Bruckner?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostA definition based on an old East German joke : The Gewandhaus Orchestra or Staatskapelle returning from a tour to the West.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostA definition based on an old East German joke : The Gewandhaus Orchestra or Staatskapelle returning from a tour to the West.
I see that Bernard Haitink is conducting the COE in the Berg Violin Concerto next June. I had thought that the piece used a standard symphony orchestra set up including bass drum and cymbals but then I see that it has been recorded by the Orchestra Mozart (and Abbado) which is certainly a chamber orchestra so I too am puzzled by the definition."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Richard Barrett
As with so many musical definitions, a chamber orchestra isn't anything "exactly" - it can refer to an organisation like the COE, which began as an orchestra playing smaller-scale works using basically 18th-century instrumental resources but subsequently allowed itself to expand into later (and larger) repertoire; or it can refer to the ensemble for which some particular piece of music might be specifically written, like Berio's Requies "for chamber orchestra", with a minimum of 44 players specified. (On the other hand, for example, Brahms's favourite Meiningen Court Orchestra consisted of around 40 players at the time he conducted it.)
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Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View PostAh,I rather thought that might be the case when I asked the question.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostAs with so many musical definitions, a chamber orchestra isn't anything "exactly"...
So the meaning eg of what constitutes art, or music, or literature now is quite different from how it might have been formulated a hundred years ago. And will certainly be different again a hundred years on.
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