Tchaikovsky - time to rehabilitate?

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    Aha it was the Manfred, no 5 4 3 2 1 (or even 6)
    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    I thought I was right!
    No, as in none of the others Bbm, NOT as in number! Just Manfred on Naxos. This new cycle is Petrenko,s first traversal of the complete Tchaikovsky Symphonies.☺
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      No, as in none of the others Bbm, NOT as in number! Just Manfred on Naxos. This new cycle is Petrenko,s first traversal of the complete Tchaikovsky Symphonies.☺
      Many thanks Ferney. Sounds like a cycle to get!
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        Isn't it this great man's birthday today? Although experts are not too sure when it was, I think April 29th - May 7th?
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          Isn't it this great man's birthday today? Although experts are not too sure when it was, I think April 29th - May 7th?
          It's both dates, Bbm - before the Revolutions of 1917, Russia used the Julien calendar from (most of) the rest of Europe - as, indeed, did Britain before 1752 (to the outrage of proto-UKIP supporters). Tchaikovsky celebrated his birthday on April 29th, but that very day is May 7th in the Gregorian calendar. (Similarly he died on 25th October in Russia, but that exact same day was 6th November in Europe.)
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            It's both dates, Bbm - before the Revolutions of 1917, Russia used the Julien calendar from (most of) the rest of Europe - as, indeed, did Britain before 1752 (to the outrage of proto-UKIP supporters). Tchaikovsky celebrated his birthday on April 29th, but that very day is May 7th in the Gregorian calendar. (Similarly he died on 25th October in Russia, but that exact same day was 6th November in Europe.)
            Thanks Ferney!
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22257

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              It's both dates, Bbm - before the Revolutions of 1917, Russia used the Julien calendar from (most of) the rest of Europe - as, indeed, did Britain before 1752 (to the outrage of proto-UKIP supporters). Tchaikovsky celebrated his birthday on April 29th, but that very day is May 7th in the Gregorian calendar. (Similarly he died on 25th October in Russia, but that exact same day was 6th November in Europe.)
              Ssh, ferney, don't tell R3 they'll be having a Tchaik Birthday Fest, spanning those dates next year!

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Ssh, ferney, don't tell R3 they'll be having a Tchaik Birthday Fest, spanning those dates next year!
                Bring it on!

                A Tchaik total immersion day!!

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                • visualnickmos
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3617

                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  Bring it on!

                  A Tchaik total immersion day!!
                  I'd be up for that! Good idea.....

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7897

                    Wasn't there a Total Immersion week that juxtaposed Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky some years ago? I remember coming home late from the hospital, putting the radio on and confusing the two composers!

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20585

                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      Wasn't there a Total Immersion week that juxtaposed Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky some years ago? I remember coming home late from the hospital, putting the radio on and confusing the two composers!
                      There was. Having two composers rather than one made it a more satisfying experience.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22257

                        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                        Wasn't there a Total Immersion week that juxtaposed Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky some years ago? I remember coming home late from the hospital, putting the radio on and confusing the two composers!
                        The fairy's kiss?

                        There was such a week with the complete works of both composers. That was the occasion I decided that Tchaik's Operas went on a bit and there were one or two bits of Stravinsky that I was not too keen on, but overall a worthwhile project!

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          There was. Having two composers rather than one made it a more satisfying experience.
                          That Tchaik/Strav series was a "-thon" rather than an "immersion", though. For the week that it was on all day every day, there was nothing but Peter and/or Igor's stuff. "Immersions" are preferable (IMO) because whilst devoted to a particular composer's body of work, they allow time to take in what's been heard.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20585

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            That was the occasion I decided that Tchaik's Operas went on a bit . . .
                            Well, one would say the same if Verdi's or Wagner's operas were played in a single week. However, it was an opportunity to hear Vakula the Smith and the remaining scraps of Undine.

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22257

                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              Well, one would say the same if Verdi's or Wagner's operas were played in a single week. However, it was an opportunity to hear Vakula the Smith and the remaining scraps of Undine.
                              I'd probably say it about a lot of opera whether played in a week or a decade - I recall quickly loing my power of concentration when they did loads of Handel on Thursday afternoons a year or three ago. I think it's not so much the music as the voices!

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                I recall saving almost all of it in mp2 format from a Pure Bug. Highlights included the version of Stravinsky's Les Noces with Rex Lawson in charge of the player-piano part, and the original version of Tchaikovsky's Winter Daydreams Symphony (No. 1).

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