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  • verismissimo
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    Bach through Christmas...

    It being Advent Sunday, I've decided to listen around the appointed days to the Bach cantatas written for the days through to Epiphany:

    Advent Sunday: 36, 61, 62
    2nd Sunday in Advent (lost)
    3rd Sunday in Advent (lost)
    4th Sunday in Advent: 132
    Christmas Day: 63, 91, 110, 191, 248i (Christmas Oratorio)
    2nd day of Christmas: 40, 57, 121, 248ii
    3rd day of Christmas: 64, 133, 151, 248iii
    Sunday after Christmas: 28, 122, 152
    New Year: 16, 41, 143, 171, 190, 248iv
    Sunday after New Year: 58, 153, 248v
    Epiphany: 65, 123, 248vi

    Helped by the fact that we'll be at home (except for a few days in Paris ahead of New Year). Such great music!

    Any particular favourites?
  • Roehre

    #2
    very comprehensive indeed

    add to Christmas Day 197a and the list is complete

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Brilliant idea, veris - once I've completed my Bach Cantata exodus, I intend reburning them from BWV ordering to chronological. Christmas has been celebrated with the "Christmas Oratorio" for the past five years, courtesy messrs Christophers and Suzuki - this year I have the JEG recording for the first time.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • verismissimo
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2957

        #4
        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
        very comprehensive indeed

        add to Christmas Day 197a and the list is complete
        Ah yes, Roehre, but I don't have a recording of it!

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        • MickyD
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 4832

          #5
          Has anyone heard the new Hyperion Stephen Layton/OAE Christmas Oratorio yet? I presume it will get a hearing on CD Review before the festive season.

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          • Roehre

            #6
            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
            Ah yes, Roehre, but I don't have a recording of it!
            It's the Wedding Cantata BWV 197 with an amended text and different recitatives. The choruses, arias and the chorales are essentially the same music.
            Last edited by Guest; 01-12-13, 22:16.

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            • Karafan
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 786

              #7
              I am developing a taste for the Bach cantatas and wondered if you tend to listen with the translations to hand or just listen to them as 'pure music' (nothing pejorative intended by this)?

              Just how important do others feel the text is, to which Bach set his glorious music? My JEG set has no hard copy of text/translations just a CD ROM.

              I can't really see me peering at a CD-ROM and shudder a bit at the cost of the Dürr paperback.....though it may well be a case of 'in for a penny'.....

              The JEG set is outstandingly well sung, played and recorded from my initial samplings and the cover art wonderful.

              K
              Last edited by Karafan; 17-12-13, 20:58.
              "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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              • Thropplenoggin
                Full Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1587

                #8
                Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                I am developing a taste for the Bach cantatas and wondered if you tend to listen with the translations to hand or just listen to them as 'pure music' (nothing pejorative intended by this)?

                K
                For now I listen to them as 'pure music', but then I took the same approach to Wagner initially. Streaming the Preludes online, I let the recording run on, and found myself enjoying the voices as an instrument. My interest piqued by subsequent listenings, I went off to find out what was being sung.

                I only have one Suzuki disc of cantatas, but have my eye on two more discs in Presto's 25% sale:

                BWV 131, 71, and the sublime 106 (have duetting recorders ever sounded more wonderful?): http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/BIS/BISCD781

                BWV 40, 60, 70, 90: http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/BIS/BISCD1111

                I'll be getting them as FLAC downloads.
                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                  I can't really see me peering at a CD-ROM and shudder a bit at the cost of the Dürr paperback.....though it may well be a case of 'in for a penny'.....
                  You might find this a useful site, K:

                  Johann, Sebastian, Bach, Baroque, Classical, Music, Vocal, Instrumental, Recordings, Discussions, Articles


                  ... click on "Cantatas", find the BWV number and you can access a variety of English translations, and access some interesting discussions of the works themselves.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Karafan
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 786

                    #10
                    Thanks Throppers and Ferney. The site does look interesting and I shall explore that.

                    Anyone else with an opinion as to whether I should shell out for Alfred Dürr's rather comprehensive book?
                    "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                    • Roehre

                      #11
                      Though I most of the time enjoy the Bach-cantatas as "absolute" music, well understanding them is out-of-the-question without (especially) the theological/ecclesiastical connotations/contents of these works. The texts therefore are indispensable.

                      FHG's link is therefore essential if you are not going for the Dürr (which in their English guise is approximately 10 times as expensive as in their original German one ).

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                      • verismissimo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        #12
                        BWV 110 Unser Mund sei voll Lachens. For Christmas Day.

                        Such joy!

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          I am going to have to listen to these Cantatas all in a very short space of time! Today may be a good time to do this?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37857

                            #14
                            Bach through Rubbra

                            Advent Cantata: Natum Maria Virgine.

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                            • verismissimo
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2957

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Advent Cantata: Natum Maria Virgine.
                              Love to have that, Serial, but the Chandos recording is just so expensive!

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