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  • umslopogaas
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1977

    #83 Beef Oven! Apologies, overlooked your offer re. values. There are a bit over seven thousand discs, so I think I'll spare you the effort ... Actually I have a fair idea of values, based on ebay bids. Somewhere between twenty and forty thousand quid, depending on whether anyone would bid. Were I to sell (no chance at present) finding a buyer would be the problem, some LPs are worth a lot of money because of scarcity, but the market is declining and a lot of interesting stuff on ebay attracts no bids at all.

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    • richardfinegold
      Full Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 7666

      Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
      I've always been mystified by very expensive watches. My Casio diving watch cost eighteen quid in 1978. It is waterproof to much greater depths than me and timed me on hundreds of dives. It gives me the time, the day and the date and can be used as a stopwatch. In over thirty years it has cost me just one new battery. But I guess it just doesnt have the status of a Rolex ...
      I've never understood luxury automobiles. For me, the point of a car is to get from A to B. Why do this in something that costs as much as a house?

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      • umslopogaas
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1977

        Luxury cars. Part of it of course is flaunting your wealth. Hey baby, want a good time? Come for a ride on my upholstery. But part of it, I think, dates from the days when cars were not as reliable as they are now. I remember when cheap cars broke down, I had one and it gave me no end of trouble, if I could have afforded a big flashy and expensive item, I'd have gone for it.

        And as part of flaunting your wealth, it is a sign that you know your stuff. Someone once remarked that if a person rolls up in a Rolls, well, they really know their business.

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7666

          So after being very negative about vinyl in this thread all week, I played ops today, and enjoyed the experience immensely.
          My favorite recording of the last two Beethoven Piano Sonatas remains the first one that I heard, by Gary Graffman. It only recently
          has been transfered to cD, as part of a 20+ CD collection, that is a fantastic bargain, but that I don't wish to purchase. After playing Op. 111 I played Beethoven's 3rd Piano Concerto with Annie Fischer and then Brahms 4th with Kubelik and then it was off to the races. I think I will keep the turntable spinning a bit longer.

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          • mathias broucek
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1303

            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
            I've never understood luxury automobiles. For me, the point of a car is to get from A to B. Why do this in something that costs as much as a house?
            But have you driven one?

            A kindly dealer recently lent me (free of charge) a brand new 7-series BMW to drive at two friends' wedding. (The friends both work for our church and were in no position to afford a chauffeur-driven wedding car.)

            The car was incredibly comfortable, VERY quiet and with a wonderful stereo. I drove along (before the bridal pick-up) with a huge sense of peaceful well-being.

            Hence the journey from A-B was very much a pleasure rather than a chore. I was able to enjoy some music and arrived feeling very refreshed. The return journey (having dropped the couple off at Gatwick) could have been a nightmare as the M25 was blocked. But I felt very calm at all times, treated other drivers very considerately and the build-in SatNav took me around the problem.

            Admittedly the sticker price was "only" £60k - less than a house, although considerably more than I could spend. But I can see why someone with a lot of disposable income who travelled a lot would fork-out.

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              Yes, it's the same for hifi - a lovely quality of build ("overbuild"!) and finish are a pleasure in themselves... I often caress my Dac, no wonder it sounds so nice. Or was it the other way round?

              And don't get me started on cashmere...

              what was this thread about again...?

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              • richardfinegold
                Full Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 7666

                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                Yes, it's the same for hifi - a lovely quality of build ("overbuild"!) and finish are a pleasure in themselves... I often caress my Dac, no wonder it sounds so nice. Or was it the other way round?

                And don't get me started on cashmere...

                what was this thread about again...?
                My friends make fun of me for spending more on my Audio System than on my car. I admit that it is a constant source of pleasure to upgrade the system and then play the collection through them. Not only do I hear new details, but frequently my whole perspective of an artist/recording changes. I am currently listening to Peter Frankl's 50 year old budget recording of Debussy Preludes (Book I). I hadn't played this recording in ages, and it was my first exposure to this music. It is thrilling to hear the pianist engage in so many changes of touch and dynamics that my system of my teenaged years could not have hoped to reproduce.
                And jlw, if your DAC is treated as you mention, I envy it...

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                • Ferretfancy
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3487

                  Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                  My friends make fun of me for spending more on my Audio System than on my car. I admit that it is a constant source of pleasure to upgrade the system and then play the collection through them. Not only do I hear new details, but frequently my whole perspective of an artist/recording changes. I am currently listening to Peter Frankl's 50 year old budget recording of Debussy Preludes (Book I). I hadn't played this recording in ages, and it was my first exposure to this music. It is thrilling to hear the pianist engage in so many changes of touch and dynamics that my system of my teenaged years could not have hoped to reproduce.
                  And jlw, if your DAC is treated as you mention, I envy it...
                  If I make an improvement or a small tweak to my system, I always have to go and buy a CD to give it a treat for good behaviour. Bonkers, of course, but do others do the same ?

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                    If I make an improvement or a small tweak to my system, I always have to go and buy a CD to give it a treat for good behaviour. Bonkers, of course, but do others do the same ?
                    No. You are bonkers.

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                    • richardfinegold
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 7666

                      Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                      If I make an improvement or a small tweak to my system, I always have to go and buy a CD to give it a treat for good behaviour. Bonkers, of course, but do others do the same ?
                      My threshold for finding new justifications for buy CDs is not high. I bought one last week to celebrate the successful removal of lint from my navel.

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                        If I make an improvement or a small tweak to my system, I always have to go and buy a CD to give it a treat for good behaviour. Bonkers, of course, but do others do the same ?
                        I recall a Stereophile contributor who "confessed" to "regularly hugging my Krell FPBs..."

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                          My threshold for finding new justifications for buy CDs is not high. I bought one last week to celebrate the successful removal of lint from my navel.


                          I have a little more self-discipline: I try to remember that it's always the first anniversary of this time last year.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • vinteuil
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12842

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                            I have a little more self-discipline: I try to remember that it's always the first anniversary of this time last year.
                            ... I usually justify it by comparison with other expenditure.

                            So, for example - last night we had to take some friends out for a rather expensive meal, in return for hospitality received.

                            Now, if I consider that the restaurant bill was rather steep - well, buying a CD of Rittner's Brahms will look jolly cheap by comparison.
                            If the restaurant bill came in at less than I had feared - well, with such a saving, it's obviously possible to buy the CD of Rittner's Brahms.

                            Ergo - I have just ordered the four CDs of Rittner playing Brahms solo piano works...

                            QED.

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                            • Ferretfancy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3487

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              No. You are bonkers.
                              Deeply hurt, Beef Oven! I'll try to forgive!

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                                Deeply hurt, Beef Oven! I'll try to forgive!
                                Why be hurt, Ferret? Bonkers is good - we couldn't be having this "conversation" if Alan Turing hadn't been bonkers!
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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