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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26598

    #16
    Originally posted by gradus View Post
    Having endured clicks pops and jumps I was and remain convinced that digital sound is a huge advance over the vinyl lp especially for songs, solo instrumentalists and chamber music where really quiet singing/playing often emerged through a background of vinyl snap crackle and pop. I don't think I'd have the patience to clean vinyl records using a machine though I dust-bugged, parastated etc. my collection over many years, I am glad to be through with it.
    I completely agree, gradus.

    I only got the chance to collect a dozen or so LPs before cassettes took over, and then CDs - the freedom from the click/pop/jump annoyance was such a pleasure and remains so. Not remotely tempted to get back to vinyl....
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26598

      #17
      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
      Yes. The rubber band explains the £200 price tag as opposed to £12,000.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25245

        #18
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        I completely agree, gradus.

        I only got the chance to collect a dozen or so LPs before cassettes took over, and then CDs - the freedom from the click/pop/jump annoyance was such a pleasure and remains so. Not remotely tempted to get back to vinyl....
        at the risk of pedantry, you don't really have much to go back to !!

        Now if you had wooden boxes full of old singles and albums, each a dearly held memory of special saturdays scouring each and every record shop in town, (the towns on a four weekly rota so as not to miss anything).........
        Week 1 Southampton Morning only, week 2 Bath, week 3 Salisbury Morning only, Week 4 Trowbridge....

        Get with the Nostalgia kick, Cals......
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • amateur51

          #19
          Initially I was getting all misty-eyed about vinyl reading this thread but then I was slowly drawn back into the snags - static discharges, dust, eccentric turntables, eccentric LP holes (aka swingers), warped LPs, bouncing stylus, scratches, clicks, sticking grooves - stay with CDs I say (and I have over 2,500 LPs being 'looked after' by a friend )

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25245

            #20
            Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
            Initially I was getting all misty-eyed about vinyl reading this thread but then I was slowly drawn back into the snags - static discharges, dust, eccentric turntables, eccentric LP holes (aka swingers), warped LPs, bouncing stylus, scratches, clicks, sticking grooves - stay with CDs I say (and I have over 2,500 LPs being 'looked after' by a friend )
            spoilsport.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26598

              #21
              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              at the risk of pedantry, you don't really have much to go back to !!
              ...
              Get with the Nostalgia kick, Cals......
              I was using 'back' in a chronological sense, ts

              One thought of a stylus thick with fluff... how can nostalgia survive that?

              2,500 LPs ams???
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • amateur51

                #22
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                I was using 'back' in a chronological sense, ts

                One thought of a stylus thick with fluff... how can nostalgia survive that?

                2,500 LPs ams???
                I worked in record shops several of which had second-hand departments and later I also had an office just around the corner from the long-gone and much-missed Cheapo Cheapo Records in Rupert Street, Soho - all LPs £2.20 top whack. Then there was Orchesography in Cecil Court .... it was all easily done

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26598

                  #23
                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  I worked in record shops several of which had second-hand departments and later I also had an office just around the corner from the long-gone and much-missed Cheapo Cheapo Records in Rupert Street, Soho - all LPs £2.20 top whack. Then there was Orchesography in Cecil Court .... it was all easily done
                  'Twould have been silly not to!
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26598

                    #24
                    I find the technology of vinyl HiFi recordings as mysterious as any digital technology...







                    How can that sort of thing deliver Shostakovich 15 and change my life???
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Thropplenoggin
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1587

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      I find the technology of vinyl HiFi recordings as mysterious as any digital technology...







                      How can that sort of thing deliver Shostakovich 15 and change my life???
                      Quel post!

                      It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        I find the technology of vinyl HiFi recordings as mysterious as any digital technology...







                        How can that sort of thing deliver Shostakovich 15 and change my life???
                        I breathe the air from other planets....

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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18060

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                          Let's hope you haven't got any of these in that collection.

                          The only negative I can see with the ProJect series of budget turntables, which seem to win 5 stars across the board, is that they don't come with a dustcover.
                          Very strange performances - see here - http://open.spotify.com/track/0CDbCahovsgZPNumyO7aD2 What an odd style of singing. Canned Heat refers to a can with fuel, which was used to heat food. Some sad people used to drink or sniff the fuel apparently - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterno

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25245

                            #28
                            Brilliant pics, Cals.

                            No fluff at all though !!
                            I suppose Alex Harvey's voice survived the technology rather better than shimmering Ravel orchestral works.

                            and as you say, all a thing of wonder. Got any close ups of C90's?
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • salymap
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5969

                              #29
                              At 15 I had a wind-up gramophone,plus thorn needles. A few years later I bought a thing called a 'Plus-a Gram' which I managed to connect up and played my records through the radio.

                              Since then I've had a variety of players, the latest only cost about £150 but nothing on CD, DVD or anything I've heard beats my 10" recording of Boult and the LSO, BLP1001, playing the RVW 6th symphony.

                              It leaps from the disc, I've compared it with the same performance on everything else, they all lose something. And that's not nostalgia, it's fact.

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                              • umslopogaas
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1977

                                #30
                                Hmm, I dont do 78s, but if I did I dont think I'd dare play something that rare! Cleaning a 78 with a damp cloth wouldnt do it any harm, but the Monks machine is more effective, for two reasons. It uses a 1:1 mixture of industrial meths and distilled water, which is more effective than water in removing the dirt, and it uses a specially constructed brush that really gets into the grooves and scrubs them clean. One word of caution: the meths cleaning fluid works fine on vinyl LPs, but 78s were made of shellac, and I dont know how that would be affected by alcohol. Ask a chemist before you risk dissolving the grooves off some priceless relic.

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