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  • gurnemanz
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7386

    Eric Coates Blue Plaque

    Always nice to read about a new one of these. Report here. I enjoyed these snippets:
    Despite being a very accomplished orchestral player, Coates was dismissed from Sir Henry Wood's Queen's Hall Orchestra in 1919 for over-using understudies. His ready sense of humour and reported tendency to fall asleep during afternoon concerts may have been further sources of dissatisfaction.
    Coates needed the right atmosphere to produce his work - his son Austin recalled how his father 'couldn't settle down to write music until he was properly dressed in the morning, complete with tie and Harris Tweed coat - and, perhaps, a Turkish cigarette'.
  • Boilk
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    • Dec 2010
    • 976

    #2
    I grew up on a council estate that had Elgar Close, Sullivan Way and Delius Close.
    It was only as a teenager that I finally realised the significance of Coates Road as well!

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 37678

      #3
      Originally posted by Boilk View Post
      I grew up on a council estate that had Elgar Close, Sullivan Way and Delius Close.
      It was only as a teenager that I finally realised the significance of Coates Road as well!
      When Delius Close you can smell the cooking.

      Er - I'll get me Coates...

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      • makropulos
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        • Nov 2010
        • 1673

        #4
        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
        Always nice to read about a new one of these. Report here. I enjoyed these snippets:
        Despite being a very accomplished orchestral player, Coates was dismissed from Sir Henry Wood's Queen's Hall Orchestra in 1919 for over-using understudies. His ready sense of humour and reported tendency to fall asleep during afternoon concerts may have been further sources of dissatisfaction.
        Coates needed the right atmosphere to produce his work - his son Austin recalled how his father 'couldn't settle down to write music until he was properly dressed in the morning, complete with tie and Harris Tweed coat - and, perhaps, a Turkish cigarette'.
        It's a very handsome plaque, and I happened to be walking beside Baker Street tube a couple of Saturdays ago when the man was up a ladder finishing off the installation. Delighted to see one for Coates.

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        • Petrushka
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12247

          #5
          I wonder if he is remembered at all in his birthplace of Hucknall in Nottingham?

          As a side issue it's interesting that so much talent and genius has come out of the English Midlands (Elgar, Havergal Brian and Shakespeare among them). Coates, together with Ronald Binge and Sydney Baynes of Destiny Waltz fame (both born in Derby) represent the East Midlands.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • edashtav
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            • Jul 2012
            • 3670

            #6
            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
            I wonder if he is remembered at all in his birthplace of Hucknall in Nottingham?

            As a side issue it's interesting that so much talent and genius has come out of the English Midlands (Elgar, Havergal Brian and Shakespeare among them). Coates, together with Ronald Binge and Sydney Baynes of Destiny Waltz fame (both born in Derby) represent the East Midlands.
            And... not forgetting Edmund Rubbra and Malcolm Arnold from Northampton, Petrushka.
            Last edited by edashtav; 27-10-13, 17:35. Reason: extra the

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12247

              #7
              Originally posted by edashtav View Post
              And... not forgetting Edmund Rubbra and Malcolm Arnold from the Northampton, Petrushka.
              I knew Arnold was from Northampton but not Rubbra. It really is an area of the UK that has produced so much artistic and cultural talent.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • makropulos
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                • Nov 2010
                • 1673

                #8
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                I knew Arnold was from Northampton but not Rubbra. It really is an area of the UK that has produced so much artistic and cultural talent.
                As someone who now lives in Rushden, Northamptonshire (near Wellingborough, not far from Northampton), it's very good to hear about these local musical connections. I knew about Arnold, but didn't realise Rubbra was also a local. Has anyone got any more?

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                • Petrushka
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12247

                  #9
                  Havergal Brian was born in Stoke on Trent (about 20 miles from here) and the city has strong Elgarian connections particularly from his early years.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • rauschwerk
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1481

                    #10
                    Originally posted by makropulos View Post
                    As someone who now lives in Rushden, Northamptonshire (near Wellingborough, not far from Northampton), it's very good to hear about these local musical connections. I knew about Arnold, but didn't realise Rubbra was also a local. Has anyone got any more?
                    William Alwyn was born in Northampton.

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                    • Petrushka
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12247

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                      William Alwyn was born in Northampton.
                      Incredible! Three great English (though neglected) composers born in the same city. Is this a record for this country?
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Pabmusic
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                        • May 2011
                        • 5537

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                        I wonder if he is remembered at all in his birthplace of Hucknall in Nottingham?

                        As a side issue it's interesting that so much talent and genius has come out of the English Midlands (Elgar, Havergal Brian and Shakespeare among them). Coates, together with Ronald Binge and Sydney Baynes of Destiny Waltz fame (both born in Derby) represent the East Midlands.
                        Edward German from Whitchurch (Shropshire), Walford Davies from Oswestry, and Gerald Tyrwhitt-Wilson, 14th Baron Berners from Bridgnorth. Whilst from Birmingham there's Albert W. Ketèlbey (first British composer to become a millionaire - I heard once) and Stanley Myers.

                        Then if Oxford and Aylesbury are Midlands (they seem sometimes to be classed as South Midlands) there's Orlando Gibbons, Lennox Berkley and Rutland Boughton.
                        Last edited by Pabmusic; 27-10-13, 23:02.

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                        • edashtav
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                          • Jul 2012
                          • 3670

                          #13
                          And we've forgotten that dear Bob Simpson was born in Leamington Spa.

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