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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30301

    #2
    Crumbs! I wonder what may help to 'restore Gramophone to its recording roots' means.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Gordon
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1425

      #3
      Hmm!! "faltering" under Haymarket, well what do you know!! Whose fault is that then! As for "returning to its roots" under "family run ownership"?? What are those roots then? When I was a subscriber for some 30+ years, before giving up its dumbing down, it was by and large a reliable, informative and intelligent journal with reviewers whose authority and approach was clear. That is its roots.

      It has to be said that the context of those roots is no longer in place because the market has moved on very significantly and the readership of yore perhaps does not share the same aesthetic. Neverthless the timeless values of authority, intelligence and reliability surely remain? It will never be a mass circulation journal and so its profitability [if that what the owners want] will depend on value for the cover price.

      When it started to brush up its image the rot set in straight away because it undervalued its core market trying to attract new readers [a perceived commercial need I suppose] with a flashy new image that appealed to no one but ts management consultants. Can't think where I have heard that intention lately?

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      • Stephen Smith

        #4
        Obviously decided to get something for The Gramophone rather than wait until its worth nothing.....

        Also (sorry for OT) has it been noticed on the same site - Catherine Bott is heading for Classic FM (10 October) ?

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26538

          #5
          Originally posted by Stephen Smith View Post
          Also (sorry for OT) has it been noticed on the same site - Catherine Bott is heading for Classic FM (10 October) ?


          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30301

            #6
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post


            Just started new thread.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • VodkaDilc

              #7
              This must be good news. Looking at the website for the people who have bought it, it seems as if they have some solidly academic publications. Perhaps these are just the people to restore Gramophone to something more worth reading.

              I notice that they recently took over Jazzwise magazine. I wonder if anyone has experience of that publication - and, more importantly, perhaps they could comment on any recent changes:

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11688

                #8
                Could be worrying news for IRR if Gramophone does return to its roots - as its roster of reviewers generally outflanks those IRR ,( our two distinguished IRR reviewer forum members not included ) if they are to be given a chance of writing proper reviews again .

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                • jayne lee wilson
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 10711

                  #9
                  One can only wait and see... HiFiNews was bought (from iPC) by a smaller more specialised house a couple of years ago and is currently in something of a golden age! It only did it good... New G. just arrived ("Mozart's Final Year - Masterpieces and Myths" on the cover) but haven't opened it yet... I always stuck by it but when I read Philip Clark's appalling and brief (single-paragraph!) dismissal of Venzago's fascinating re-think of Bruckner 6 last month I was truly dismayed. Still have a draft letter to send to them when time allows...

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                  • VodkaDilc

                    #10
                    We patiently await MickeyD's views on the subject!

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                    • VodkaDilc

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      Could be worrying news for IRR if Gramophone does return to its roots - as its roster of reviewers generally outflanks those IRR ,( our two distinguished IRR reviewer forum members not included ) if they are to be given a chance of writing proper reviews again .
                      I don't think Gramophone would become as 'serious' as IRR, even under new ownership. I would disagree about the respective qualities of the two teams of reviewers; Gramophone STILL employs the likes of Ivan March - and the man from Crossroads "reviewing" piano records.

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                        I don't think Gramophone would become as 'serious' as IRR, even under new ownership. I would disagree about the respective qualities of the two teams of reviewers; Gramophone STILL employs the likes of Ivan March - and the man from Crossroads "reviewing" piano records.
                        Which is why I used the word - generally . In reply one could note that IRR employs Raymond Tuttle and Michael Jameson .

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                        • Old Grumpy
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3617

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post

                          I notice that they recently took over Jazzwise magazine. I wonder if anyone has experience of that publication - and, more importantly, perhaps they could comment on any recent changes:

                          http://www.markallengroup.com/news/m...jazz-magazine/
                          No recent changes that I have noted - except for the print getting a little larger (hurray). I like the publication, but others on the Jassbord may disagree.

                          OG

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                          • Alison
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6459

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                            I don't think Gramophone would become as 'serious' as IRR, even under new ownership. I would disagree about the respective qualities of the two teams of reviewers; Gramophone STILL employs the likes of Ivan March - and the man from Crossroads "reviewing" piano records.
                            Poor Ivan. He did co-edit the Bible ! (Know what you mean though).

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                            • pastoralguy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7759

                              #15
                              The recent 'Awards' issue contained three howlers.

                              1). There was a picture of three people. Two were identified as Ronald Kinloch Anderson, Dame Janet Baker and AN Other who happened to be the late Sir Alex Gibson. Amazing no one could identify him.

                              2). The Dvorak 'cello concerto is in b minor - not d minor!

                              3). A new cd of Lennox Berkeley's music for solo violin and and violin and piano named the violinist as Edwin Paley and not Edwin Paling, long term leader of the RSNO.

                              And since I'm on my soap box, the Friday 'Times' had a review of the Brahms second piano that insisted (3 times!). that it was in Eb Major and not Bb Major.

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