Works you would love to hear performed live.

[Suffolkcoastal]

Arnold: Symphony No 7 & 9
Barber: Symphony No 2, The Lovers
Bax: Symphonies 3 & 6
Copland: Music for a Great City
Corigliano: Symphony No 1
Diamond: Symphonies 2 & 3
Any Glazunov Symphony
Hanson: Lament for Beowulf, Symphony No 4
Harris: Symphonies 1, 5, 6, 7, 9 & 11
Holst: The Cloud Messenger & Ode to Death
any major orchestral work by Hoddinott
Howells: Missa Sabriensis, Stabat Mater
Holmboe: Symphonies 8 & 11
Lilburn: Symphony No 2
any Martinu Symphony, Epic of Gilgamesh, The Greek Passion
Mennin: Symphonies 5 & 9
any Miaskovsky symphony & Violin Concerto
Moeran: Violin Concerto
A Panufnik: Symphony No 3
Piston: Violin Concertos 1 & 2, Symphonies 2 & 6
Prokofiev: The Prodigal Son
Rachmaninov: The Bells
Rautavaara: Symphonies 3, 5 & 8
any Rubbra symphony
William Schuman Symphonies 3, 6 & 9, Credendum
Sessions: Symphony No 7, Montezuma
Shostakovich: Symphonies 4 & 13
any R Simpson Symphony but esp nos 3 & 9
any Tubin Symphony, Double Bass Concerto
Vaughan Williams: Sancta Civitas & Dona Nobis Pacem
any Vainberg Symphony

[Petrushka]

Bung in an overture though, Pet, please.

It's already a long concert! I've never heard of the Parry overture suggested by Rob never mind heard it so in it goes!

Another work I'd love to hear live is Sir Peter Maxwell Davies's St Thomas Wake: Foxtrot for Orchestra. Not heard at the Proms since 1977 (it was televised) and I fell for it immediately.

[Simon B]

Apologies in advance to anyone irritated by a slight diversion of the thread, but here's the consequently inevitable but:

Arnold: Symphony No 7& 9
Copland: Music for a Great City
Harris: Symphonies 1, 5, 6, 7, 9 & 11
Holst: The Cloud Messenger & Ode to Death
Howells: Missa Sabriensis, Stabat Mater
any Martinu Symphony, Epic of Gilgamesh, The Greek Passion
Piston: Violin Concertos 1 & 2, Symphonies 2 & 6
Rachmaninov: The Bells
William Schuman Symphonies 3, 6 & 9, Credendum
Shostakovich: Symphony no 13
Vaughan Williams: Sancta Civitas & Dona Nobis Pacem

Numerous interesting choices there, as expected - some of which are (or would be had I not already tracked down performances at some point) on my larger list...

Some of these do, just about, get the odd public performance in the UK. Obviously it's not practical for most to get about all over the country, but it does show it's not completely hopeless.

For example, the BBCNOW are performing W Schuman 3, Harris 9 and Piston 6 in Cardiff this year.

I'm fairly sure the Arnold 9 (and 7?) got a public performance at the time BBCPO/Gamba recorded it for Chandos, as I recall irritation upon discovering that I couldn't make it!

BBCSO/Belohlavek played all the Martinu symphonies (and the Epic of Gilgamesh IIRC) at the Barbican not so long back.

The Bells is fairly frequently performed (I'll be at the CBSO/Sinaisky performance in Birmingham at the end of this month). Likewise Shostakovich 13 (most recently and convincingly by RLPO/Petrenko in Liverpool in September, and I'm seeing it again at the RFH with LPO/Nezet-Seguin on Oct 26th).

The RVW Dona Nobis Pacem gets the odd outing (I'll be heading to Leeds for this on 2nd November where it's paired with Elgar's Spirit of England - lovely programme IMO). Sancta Civitas has proved impossible to track down so far for me. It seems to be considered a "difficult" piece by RVW standards which has apparently condemned it to be largely unperformed.

Holst's Cloud Messenger almost got a performance at the Dorchester EMF a few years back, but as far as I recall, there were subsequently wholesale changes to the programme due to financial constraints and this was one of the casualties. Is it therefore still to get its first professional public performance as was the case at the time the Hickox/LSO recording?

The Howells Missa Sabriensis would be quite something, and the (admittedly much better known) Hymnus Paradisi made it to the Proms recently and to some acclaim, so you never know. Apparently it is exceedingly challenging for the choruses which hasn't helped...

As far as I know, I've never knowingly encountered anyone else familiar with the Copland "Music for a Great City" before! Quite dark, edgy stuff IMO familiar from frequent listening on CD but I've never seen it programmed in the UK...

I never thought I'd see the Brian Gothic, Korngold's F# symphony or Gliere's Ilya Muromets live either, but these have all been performed at the Proms in recent years, so there's always some hope!

[Suffolkcoastal]

The BBNOW, are certainly among the more adventurous UK orchestras. When are the Schuman & Harris being done? I met travel across country for those!

Just found them, the Schuman is on the 18th October, too soon to get time off, but the Harris is in mid November and a Tuesday, very tempted if I can get a hotel for a couple of nights, pit its encumbered with Adams Gnarly Buttons (one of my least favourite Adams works), but Diamond's Rounds and Rorem's Eagles are also well worth the trip.. Nice once too in December with the Piston Incredible Flutist, Hanson Elegy for Serge Koussevitsky (have a score of that beautiful work) and Randall Thompson delightfully engaging 2nd Symphony.

[teamsaint]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/orchestras/events/1605

afternoons. Cheap tickets. tempting.

[Simon B]

Oh, and since Arnold and overtures have been mentioned in near proximity, another "target" of mine is finally about to come up. Arnold's Peterloo overture has turned up on my music stand many times. I recall covering (on separate occasions ), timpani, snare drum 1, snare drum 2 + bells, bass drum (and even 1st and 2nd violin back in the ancient mists of time!)

Not once, however, have I ever seen it programmed by a major orchestra. This is about to be corrected as the BBC Phil (and the Mancunian connection is of course as obvious as it could get with Peter Street being yards from the Bridgewater Hall) are opening their 12th October concert with it. What Juanjo Mena will make of it remains to be seen...

[pastoralguy]

May I suggest Parry's Overture to an Unwritten Tragedy ?

Believe it or not, but I've played that piece on three separate occasions! Good work.

[pastoralguy]

Chausson's 'Poeme' for violin and orchestra. Never once encountered it in concert.

[pastoralguy]

Moeran: Violin concerto.

I once played it for a BBC audition. "That sounds like a good piece" said the Principle conductor. "It would be great to hear it played really well..."

My fav. Recording is the great John Georgiadas.

[pastoralguy]

Many overtures - a staple that seems to have been lost by concert promoters recently...

[Simon B]

Chausson's 'Poeme' for violin and orchestra. Never once encountered it in concert.

And lo, it's on the programme of the BBC Philharmonic's concert on 16th November (in my diary since Walton 1 forms the 2nd half). Ok, so casually dropping into Manchester from Edinburgh isn't likely, but again, it shows it's not impossible!

[Alain Maréchal]

Eduard Kuenneke's "Taenzerische Suite", perfect for John Wilson and that hand-picked orchestra. It requires a 1920s style jazz band as well as a symphony orchestra. It's addictive: if you doubt me a CD can be obtained quite inexpensively.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/German-Composers-Conduct-Berlin-Po/dp/B001CYZ92C/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1380969581&sr=1-1&keywords=german+composers+conduct

[amateur51]

I would also love to see one of the Bliss Ballet scores performed as a Ballet.
Or even as a concert piece.
Adam Zero for preference.

Bliss opera The Olympians here, teams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKZTY4hEyY&list=PLTE-CPCv9G18Wy7FaTjGz9DUsqE5W6VM4

[Nick Armstrong]

Fascinating thread, teamster! Many thanks, some things here I've never even heard of, let alone heard live!

[teamsaint]

Fascinating thread, teamster! Many thanks, some things here I've never even heard of, let alone heard live!

Yep, as ever, the knowledge of board members is quite amazing.

Simon B's post was brilliant. I wondered if a thread dedicated to upcoming performances of rarely heard repertoire might be useful.
I guess most of us check London/our local venues/some that are easy to get to.
But SC for instance mentioned that he might go a long way to see some Harris or Diamond, and I guess that might apply to any of us in particular situations.