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  • amateur51

    #46
    Originally posted by hafod View Post
    You missed an action - after telling you the time he (it's usually a 'he') puts it in his pocket and then presents a bill for it.

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    • Sir Velo
      Full Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 3225

      #47
      Originally posted by hafod View Post
      Yes, it’s an old joke but (slightly adapted) irresistible in the circumstances.

      From: Hornspieler Associates - Management and Productivity Consultants
      To: Chairman, Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra
      Subject: Schubert's Symphony No. 8 in B minor.

      We make the following observations and recommendations following observation of rehearsals of this work:

      1. We note that the twelve first violins were playing identical notes, as were the second violins. Three violins in each section, suitably amplified, would seem to us to be adequate.

      2. Much unnecessary labour is involved in the number of demisemiquavers in this work; we suggest that many of these could be rounded up to the nearest semiquaver thus saving practice time for the individual player and rehearsal time for the entire ensemble. The simplification would also permit more use of trainee and less-skilled players with only marginal loss of precision.

      3. We could find no productivity value in string passages being repeated by the horns; all tutti repeats could also be eliminated without reducing efficiency.

      4. In so labour-intensive an undertaking as a symphony, we regard the long oboe tacet passages to be extremely wasteful. What notes this instrument is called upon to play could, subject to a satisfactory demarcation conference with the Musician's Union, be shared out equitably amongst the other instruments.

      5. The contribution made by the supervisor in charge of the proceedings appears to be inaudible (unlike everyone else taking part), it does not utilise the level of skill shown by most players and is certainly out of all proportion to the fee paid. Consideration should be given to correcting this anomaly.

      Conclusion: Implementation of the above recommendations would allow the piece under consideration to be played through in much less time with associated savings in overtime, lighting and heating, wear and tear on the instruments and hall rental fees. Also, had the composer been aware of modern cost-effective procedures he might well have finished this work.
      Lovely! The best post of the lot.

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      • LeMartinPecheur
        Full Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        #48
        Originally posted by hafod View Post
        5. The contribution made by the supervisor in charge of the proceedings appears to be inaudible (unlike everyone else taking part), it does not utilise the level of skill shown by most players and is certainly out of all proportion to the fee paid. Consideration should be given to correcting this anomaly.
        Maybe that's why so many conductors now so audibly sing along?
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37593

          #49
          Originally posted by hafod View Post
          Yes, it’s an old joke but (slightly adapted) irresistible in the circumstances.

          From: Hornspieler Associates - Management and Productivity Consultants
          To: Chairman, Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra
          Subject: Schubert's Symphony No. 8 in B minor.

          We make the following observations and recommendations following observation of rehearsals of this work:

          1. We note that the twelve first violins were playing identical notes, as were the second violins. Three violins in each section, suitably amplified, would seem to us to be adequate.

          2. Much unnecessary labour is involved in the number of demisemiquavers in this work; we suggest that many of these could be rounded up to the nearest semiquaver thus saving practice time for the individual player and rehearsal time for the entire ensemble. The simplification would also permit more use of trainee and less-skilled players with only marginal loss of precision.

          3. We could find no productivity value in string passages being repeated by the horns; all tutti repeats could also be eliminated without reducing efficiency.

          4. In so labour-intensive an undertaking as a symphony, we regard the long oboe tacet passages to be extremely wasteful. What notes this instrument is called upon to play could, subject to a satisfactory demarcation conference with the Musician's Union, be shared out equitably amongst the other instruments.

          5. The contribution made by the supervisor in charge of the proceedings appears to be inaudible (unlike everyone else taking part), it does not utilise the level of skill shown by most players and is certainly out of all proportion to the fee paid. Consideration should be given to correcting this anomaly.

          Conclusion: Implementation of the above recommendations would allow the piece under consideration to be played through in much less time with associated savings in overtime, lighting and heating, wear and tear on the instruments and hall rental fees. Also, had the composer been aware of modern cost-effective procedures he might well have finished this work.
          "And I would go even further", chipped in Herr Webern.

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          • Hornspieler
            Late Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1847

            #50
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            "And I would go even further", chipped in Herr Webern.
            Yes S_A. We've all had a good laugh at that old chestnut and I'll give you another one, which is very often true:

            "The definition of an expert is an average bloke who's been brought in from outside at great expense."

            Well, I've spent years on the inside - 'at the coalface' - where musical performance is concerned, but I never attempt to pronounce upon those areas of music where I have no practical experience.

            HS

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            • carol_fodor

              #51
              Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
              Maybe that's why so many conductors now so audibly sing along?
              The next Principal Conductor of the L.S.O. ( London, UK) doesn't 'sing along', he GURNS ALONG!

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              • Hornspieler
                Late Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1847

                #52
                Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                So forget I spoke. I was trying to be helpful.

                Nobody has to pay heed to what I wrote and it matters not one jot to me whether it makes any difference as to how these message boards run.

                I suggest that, having said what I thought would be helpful, that the administrators do me the favour of removing the thread completely.

                HS
                Well, they haven't. So I have amended my opening post in the hope that it will be helpful to some; but nobody has to read it or take any notice of what I have written.

                HS

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #53
                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  On one occasion I returned the first draft of a consultant's report with a list of so many additional areas that I felt needed covering that said consultant complained that I seemed to know what I wanted. I didn't rise to that, we got a better report and she didn't dare to bend the agreed fee
                  That's your version.

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                  • amateur51

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    That's your version.
                    Well he who pays the piper ... etc

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #55
                      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                      Well he who pays the piper ... etc
                      What are you doing up at this hour?

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                      • amateur51

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        What are you doing up at this hour?
                        Arranging the cushions for when you fall over

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #57
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Arranging the cushions for when you fall over
                          WTF?

                          Anyway, it's 2.18 am here, I'm turning in.

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                          • amateur51

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            WTF?

                            Anyway, it's 2.18 am here, I'm turning in.
                            Result!!

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #59
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              Result!!
                              You're easily pleased. Aim higher.

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                              • amateur51

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                                You're easily pleased. Aim higher.
                                Being easily pleased is one of my virtues.

                                Which is just as well when dealing with you

                                G'night Oxo!
                                Last edited by Guest; 07-09-13, 23:26. Reason: Beefy substitute

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