Originally posted by Mary Chambers
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Because this post followed Sir Velo's (11) my first thought was that you were talking about our Nige. If you were, after all, then I agree... -
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Then I misunderstood you, for which I duly apologise; I had indeed read your post as though you were referring to Mr Kennedy (I doubt that he gets called that very often!) and responded accordingly.Originally posted by Mary Chambers View PostComment
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Quite (but see my apology above).Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
The notion that a woman on the podium might risk being a "distraction" - presumably rather more to members of the orchestra who would see her from front view at relatively close quarters than to members of the audience who would see her from the rear view and often at considerably greater distance - reveals his remark (if indeed he made it as reported) as being truly fatuous and flawed. Even if that were to happen, it's hardly likely that a woman conductor would so "distract" every member of an orchestra (assuming even that they were all looking!) and, in any case, why would not some women players risk being "distracted" by certain male conductors? Furthermore, being such a potential "distraction" neither defines nor determines a woman's conducting skill in any case.Comment
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I thought this was old news - he retracted it the following day.Comment
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I didn't know that, as I suspected several others here also didn't; I can't say that I'm surprised...Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostComment
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Was he referring to the attitude of Russian male orchestral players ?Comment
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Basically, yes.Comment
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What is? Merely to ponder on / submit that question?Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostThat's beneath you Pabs
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As a reader, ah, I find it quite confusing when you , as you frequently do, ( though please do not ask me to detail each occasion that you have done so) take it upon yourself to answer on behalf of the person to whom a remark has been addressed. Firstly, it was not addressed to you; secondly, the remark was put directly to the specific contributor; thirdly, you have corrupted, as it were, the specific contributor's potential response, if any had been contemplated, by adding questions of your own which indicated the direction of your potential response, thereby muddying the waters for readers like myself who had been anticipating a quite different discussion, and, fourthly, Pab doesn't need any help.Originally posted by ahinton View PostComment
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A, why is it that when I read one of your posts, I hear it in my head in Dalek?Originally posted by ahinton View PostComment
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You should have known - it's all in the links already posted on this thread.Originally posted by ahinton View Post
Here's his 'retraction', from the link I posted in my #11:
I realize my statements in Aftenposten have caused a lot of discussion, and I’d like to clarify a few things.
- What I said was meant to be a description of the situation in Russia, my homeland. This situation is worsening with some new initiatives of the government. I deeply respect that many musicians, for example the famous violinist Gidon Kremer, feels the same way about the situation there. Taken out of context I understand that what I said can very easily be perceived in the wrong way.
- I have the outmost respect for female conductors, for instance the extraordinary talented conductor Marin Alsop and the famous Veronika Dudarova. I’d encourage any girl to study conducting. How successful they turn out to be depends on their talent and their work, definitely not their gender. I also want to add that my beloved wife is a choral conductor.
- I’m truly and deeply sorry that I expressed myself in a way that made people misunderstand me, but I’m also glad that the misunderstanding brought about so much discussion that I now can take the opportunity to clarify what I really mean. The dicussion shows that this is a specially important issue, and I’m looking forward to getting to know the Norwegian society better and to learn more about the important issues here.
- And I wish that all the people who participated in the discussion also would come to a concert to experience what it’s all about; that is the quality of music and the Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra – regardless of the gender of the conductor or of the musicians.Comment
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