Clique? Exclusive club?

[Beef Oven]

... I suspect our Beefy is a fan of JG Hamann.


I certainly am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Georg_Hamann

.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_C..._Enlightenment

Hamann's the guvnor!

[amateur51]

Hamann's the guvnor!

She'll be thrilled

[umslopogaas]

"Darn it, ums"

Sigh. I do, I live by myself and if I dont darn it, no one else will. And there is a limit to the tattiness of jeans that even I wont exceed.

[Flay]

Does your front room look like this ?

No, but these are Trio speakers from Avantgarde Acoustics http://www.avantgarde-acoustic.com/trio-product-en.html

Do you recognise this?

It's Rainer Wehinger's visual listening score to accompany György Ligeti’s Artikulation.

Do you know where this is ?

Christ Church Cathedral

and can you tell what they are singing from the posture of the conductor ?

Nope

Which Orchestra is this ?

This is he Horn Section of the Vienna Philharmonic in one of their 1960/61 recording sessions for Decca the Rheingold, conducted by Sir Georg Solti in Sophie Hall in Vienna. First row from left: Gottfried von Freiberg, Josef Veleba, Josef Koller, Otto Nitsch, Leopold Kainz, Wolfgang Tomböck sen, Josef Samwald. Second row (Wagner tuba group) from left: Roland Berger, Hans Berger, Emil Kreuziger, Josef Lackner


As any fule kno...


I'm no musician but I have a keen interest. Being a member of this forum (even if I do spend too much time on AA) has increased my enjoyment and knowledge of music.

Anyone can join up (providing they can get through the "passion" question!)

[Nick Armstrong]

"Darn it, ums"

Sigh. I do, I live by myself and if I dont darn it, no one else will. And there is a limit to the tattiness of jeans that even I wont exceed.

[amateur51]

[B]This is he Horn Section of the Vienna Philharmonic

Completely accurate Flay

[Flay]

Completely accurate Flay

[MrGongGong]

Completely accurate Flay

hummm
someone did this before when i posted a Logothetis score ?
it was a JOKE , reading the addresses of the images is cheating !

which probably puts you in the geeksmartarse clique ?

[Flay]

hummm
someone did this before when i posted a Logothetis score ?
it was a JOKE , reading the addresses of the images is cheating !

I very much enjoyed your joke, Gongers!

(Actually it was simpler than reading the urls. I just dragged and dropped the pictures into Google images, then fiddled around to find the match!)

which probably puts you in the geeksmartarse clique ?

I am honoured!

[DavidP]

Recently there have been a number of assertions that this Radio 3 Forum is a clique, an exclusive club. I think this is a rather serious accusation.

The question is: is it true?

Speaking personally, I can see that there are a smallish number of boarders who appear to know each other and several who express themselves vigorously.

But a clique, an exclusive club?

I just don't see it.

On the whole I don't see this forum as a clique. Nevertheless, I would place a fairly safe bet on the 'smallish number of boarders' you refer to being members of Friends of Radio 3. And that group can be fairly described as a clique.

the political side is different: the forum is, in general, left/liberal inclined, and anyone favouring policies of a different slant has routinely been ridiculed by the same group - clique, gang, whatever - of a handful of people who seem to spend a lot of time here and who probably contact each other off board when a row crops up, with a few more coming in to offer "support" as things progress. So, what used to happen (IMO) was that real and valuable political discussion, with logical comment form courteous persons holding different views, didn't really have a chance, but was stymied by one-liners, smileys, sarcastic comments, pictures, general irrelevancies and by interventions from those who simply missed the point.

This doesn't just apply to the 'political' threads you refer to but to discussions about R3 programming policy as well. I recognise all the 'tactics' you mention in your post since many of them have been used against me.

some people seem to know eachother personally away from the forum, and others regularly send eachother private messages/emails which might create a sense of clique (?).

What started this discussion was the perception that members of the clique rush to defend one of their own or attack perceived enemies. I've even heard accusations (not Radio 3 related I hasten to say) that clique members organised these concerted defence/attack strategies by means of private-message networking.

I think this is undoubtedly the case. Indeed, it is not above some on here to trawl through social media, digging up dirt on forum members who express views contrary to FoR3 and sending pm's to each other with the details. Not nice!

[Flosshilde]

Why does everyone take the pee out of viola players?

I've often wondered that.



After all, I'm sure they're quite capable of doing it themselves.

[Bryn]

It's this assumption that makes me angry, because there is no evidence - there could never be any - that it happens.

It's what I was talking about it above. It is corrosive.

The thing is, we don't know who it is that Simon contacts to garner the support he is clearly referring to.

[MrGongGong]

The thing is, we don't know who it is that Simon contacts to garner the support he is clearly referring to.

Where is Walrus these days ?
and the odd chap who used to pop up and rant about how wrong music which had amplification was as it was "un-natural" ?

[Beef Oven]

The thing is, we don't know who it is that Simon contacts to garner the support he is clearly referring to.

Ooh, there's a mole in the clique. The thick plottens.

[teamsaint]

Ooh, there's a mole in the clique. The thick plottens.

Arf,arf.