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  • Stanfordian
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 9309

    #61
    That bl**dy 'An Orkney Wedding, with Sunrise' by Peter Maxwell Davies using that hackneyed them of a wedding celebration that becomes more raucous as the alcohol takes hold. I feel like strangling that Scots piper. I enjoyed it the first time I saw it performed Peter Maxwell Davies was conducting the BBC Phil in the BBC's Manchester studio 7 but to hear it again over and over again drives me to near distraction.

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    • EdgeleyRob
      Guest
      • Nov 2010
      • 12180

      #62
      Originally posted by salymap View Post
      I can talk rubbish too and will join the last two posts in regretting that Ididn't study music more deeply, rather than just listening to it.

      I spent my working life listening to musicians talking about music and usually they did the talking.

      The only comment I will make on Beetn 9 - I don't want some long works like Schubert's Great C major to finish. With the Beethoven I can't wait for the last movement to end. Sorry,my loss no doubt.
      Yep Sal,that is a big regret of mine,and not learning to play an instrument.
      If I ever find the time I intend putting that right.
      Before I joined this forum I didn't realise there were so many people who don't much care for the finale of LvB 9,I thought it was just me,don't feel so bad now.

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      • salymap
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5969

        #63
        Rob I gave upthe piano too soon. I enjoyed lessons but circumstances - losing a big house in the blitz so my piano was in the way in a bungalow- travel to London and tiring jobs- comparing myself with the great pianists I heard.

        Still we can't all get to the top, where would their audience come from ?

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        • amateur51

          #64
          Originally posted by salymap View Post
          Rob I gave upthe piano too soon. I enjoyed lessons but circumstances - losing a big house in the blitz so my piano was in the way in a bungalow- travel to London and tiring jobs- comparing myself with the great pianists I heard.

          Still we can't all get to the top, where would their audience come from ?
          That's always been my line too, salymap

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            #65
            Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
            That's always been my line too, salymap
            Ooh, what instrument did you play ams, there's still time to make good on that trumpet or piccolo.

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            • amateur51

              #66
              Originally posted by salymap View Post
              Ooh, what instrument did you play ams, there's still time to make good on that trumpet or piccolo.
              Eggsqueues me, I was a pupil of Miss Gladys Williams on the pianoforte between ages 8-11 I reckon. I had no aptitude whatsoever and I think she was quite pleased when I chucked in the towel

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              • Hornspieler
                Late Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1847

                #67
                Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                Shostakovitch #10.

                Since Dudamel's Prom with the Simon Bolivar Youth(sic) Orchestra, even the local village orchestra seems to want to have a go at it.

                For me, one of the composer's least impressive works, but I could enjoy #1,5,6,8 and 9 as often as you would like to play them.

                HS
                See what I mean? Here comes The National Youth Orchestra of the United States of America and what are they playing?

                Shostakovitch #10 of course! (Not to mention the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto)

                (EDIT: Last thoughts)

                Whilst touching on the Proms, surely "The Rite of Spring" has been totally over exposed over the last two years.

                Could we not have Le Chant du Rosignol, Symphony in C, Apollon Musagète, Danses concertantes to celebrate the life of this great Russian Composer?

                HS
                Last edited by Hornspieler; 12-07-13, 18:42.

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                • amateur51

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                  See what I mean? Here comesThe National Youth Orchestra of America and what are they playing?

                  Shostakovitch #10 of course!
                  I'm looking forward to it

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                  • Suffolkcoastal
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3290

                    #69
                    I would rather they'd programmed their own country's music, American orchestras are even worse at promoting their best composers and works than we are!

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                      See what I mean? Here comes The National Youth Orchestra of the United States of America and what are they playing?

                      Shostakovitch #10 of course! (Not to mention the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto)

                      (EDIT: Last thoughts)

                      Whilst touching on the Proms, surely "The Rite of Spring" has been totally over exposed over the last two years.

                      Could we not have Le Chant du Rosignol, Symphony in C, Apollon Musagète, Danses concertantes to celebrate the life of this great Russian Composer?

                      HS
                      Absolutely HS - any two of those would make a good Part 2 - I'd go for the Danses followed by the Symphony in C. Mind you, most conductors want a nice bang at the end - they could always reverse that order...

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                      • Flosshilde
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7988

                        #71
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        Absolutely HS - any two of those would make a good Part 2 - I'd go for the Danses followed by the Symphony in C. Mind you, most conductors want a nice bang at the end - they could always reverse that order...
                        But presumably the Rite is there because of the date, not the composer.

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                        • Ferretfancy
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3487

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                          See what I mean? Here comes The National Youth Orchestra of the United States of America and what are they playing?

                          Shostakovitch #10 of course! (Not to mention the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto)

                          (EDIT: Last thoughts)

                          Whilst touching on the Proms, surely "The Rite of Spring" has been totally over exposed over the last two years.

                          Could we not have Le Chant du Rosignol, Symphony in C, Apollon Musagète, Danses concertantes to celebrate the life of this great Russian Composer?

                          HS
                          Hornspieler
                          I presume that works like Shostakovich 10 are programmed by youth orchestras because the forces can be very large and everybody gets the chance of a bash.

                          The Rite has certainly been over exposed, but for rather more than the last two years, still tomorrow's performance promises to be interesting as a 'period' instrument version. It probably won't be long before 'period' reaches the 1940s!

                          I absolutely agree about Apollo etc. I keep raiding the splendid box with Stravinsky and Craft conducting. Many of these works would be ideal for late night Proms, there was a first rate Soldier's Tale a few years back, but nothing much since.

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