Today's Trooping the Colour Ceremony 2013

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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    #76
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    I think it DOES matter
    I think it matters that the myths of how well "WE" do things are exploded
    there are many fine musicians in the RAF et al and I have worked with many ex bandsmen in orchestras etc
    BUT
    there is an almost imperialist glee to the usual nonsense trotted out on these occasions

    the truth is that if you want spectacle you are better off with a totalitarian regime
    The British are all over the place in comparison

    carrying on believing that "we" somehow do everything better is a delusion that it would be wise to grow out of IMV
    I understand your point but I still feel that, if the ceremonial stuff is effectively inconsequential (other than for those who participate in it or enjoy being spectators thereof), it wouldn't really matter whether or not the Brits did it "better" than anyone else, especially if it's hardly worth doing in the first place.

    As to armed forces musicians, yes, of course there are some fine ones, but on what conceivable grounds would either taxpayers who fund those forces expect them to turn out musicians or those who consider a career in them be swayed by an assumption that it might be one possible route to some kind of musical training?

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    • ahinton
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      • Nov 2010
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      #77
      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
      Other countries say we do though!
      That's as may be but doesn't necessarily make them right, does it?! - although, as I've said, it seems (to me, at least) to be of little consequence one way or the other, really...

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
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        #78
        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
        Other countries say we do though!
        Is there any evidence for this ?
        or is it just "known" ?

        I'm not saying that it's NOT true
        just wondering where the idea comes from

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12846

          #79
          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          Other countries say we do though!
          ... BBM - do you really claim that we do these things as impressively as the North Koreans?

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #80
            To different culutres, I think. Admittedly, NK does know how to put "on a show", with all those armours on display, etc. We have some but not as much as NK does. Their parades, to me, have little soul in them Ours as that and much more besides.
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              #81
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              To different culutres, I think. Admittedly, NK does know how to put "on a show", with all those armours on display, etc. We have some but not as much as NK does. Their parades, to me, have little soul in them Ours as that and much more besides.
              So it's opinion rather than fact then ?
              The NK Mass Games are extraordinary, the idea that they are without "soul" is a bit strange IMV

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              • amateur51

                #82
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                To different culutres, I think. Admittedly, NK does know how to put "on a show", with all those armours on display, etc. We have some but not as much as NK does. Their parades, to me, have little soul in them Ours as that and much more besides.
                Seoul is in South Korea, which puts North Korea at something of a disadvantage, surely



                (sorry, couldn't resist )

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                • BBMmk2
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #83
                  Ah, I misread tha!!

                  I get me coat!
                  Last edited by BBMmk2; 17-06-13, 18:26.
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #84
                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    Seoul is in South Korea, which puts North Korea at something of a disadvantage, surely



                    (sorry, couldn't resist )
                    Lundy , Fastnet , Irish Sea ?

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #85
                      Atlantic Ocean!! :)
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • amateur51

                        #86
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Lundy , Fastnet , Irish Sea ?

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                          Atlantic Ocean!! :)
                          Don't be daft
                          "WE" do Oceans better than the rest of the world

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                          • Karafan
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 786

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Anna View Post
                            I missed it (didn't know it was on) Highlights are on BBC2 tonight at 6.30. I intend to watch, I love anything like that, the horses, the soldiers, the music, the Pomp and Circumstance!! I did see, on the BBC1 listings they did offer a commentary-free viewing.
                            Or, Anna, in the words of the late 'Professor' Stanley Unwin: "all pompy circumstrode, with a good dash of Godly Save & Gracious"!

                            K.
                            "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                            • amateur51

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                              Or, Anna, in the words of the late 'Professor' Stanley Unwin: "all pompy circumstrode, with a good dash of Godly Save & Gracious"!

                              K.
                              Oh deep-joy!

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                              • teamsaint
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25210

                                #90
                                he knew a bit about music it seems

                                Professor Stanley Unwin Gives Bill Wyman Some Advice On Music Poor Bill can't get a word in edgeways.


                                some wise advice for HS, Waldhorn and the rest at the end too !!
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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