Today's Trooping the Colour Ceremony 2013

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  • Anna

    #31
    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
    I specifically looked out for this and couldn't find it. There's certainly no mention of it in the Radio Times. In previous years it's been on channel 301 but they were carrying some sporty deal this morning.
    As I said, I didn't know it was on but when I looked at the online schedule before posting it said this:
    Huw Edwards introduces the world's most famous military parade.

    Perhaps it was a question of pressing the red button?

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37876

      #32
      Originally posted by Anna View Post
      As I said, I didn't know it was on but when I looked at the online schedule before posting it said this:
      Huw Edwards introduces the world's most famous military parade.

      Perhaps it was a question of pressing the red button?
      Or at least turning your sound down, so that you could gawp at the "wonderful" uniforms on display and not simultaneously have to listen to the awful military marches.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12968

        #33
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Or at least turning your sound down, so that you could gawp at the "wonderful" uniforms on display and not simultaneously have to listen to the awful military marches.

        ... it has to be said that our 'wonderful uniforms' are not a patch on those of Syldavia or Borduria

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        • amateur51

          #34
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... it has to be said that our 'wonderful uniforms' are not a patch on those of Syldavia or Borduria

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          • Petrushka
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12338

            #35
            Originally posted by Anna View Post
            As I said, I didn't know it was on but when I looked at the online schedule before posting it said this:
            Huw Edwards introduces the world's most famous military parade.

            Perhaps it was a question of pressing the red button?
            I tried the red button option this morning and it took me to 301 with some sport. If they are going to offer this service why not say so in Radio Times? Are the Beeb worried that too many people will take up the option?
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12338

              #36
              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              ... awful military marches.
              Have you any idea just how much of classical music is based on/derived from 'awful military marches'? Mahler is an obvious example, but the march permeates much of classical music as much as the dance.

              Sousa and Alford along with many less familiar names wrote music of genius, in my view, much of it instantly recognisable. Don't knock it!
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Mr Pee
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3285

                #37
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                Have you any idea just how much of classical music is based on/derived from 'awful military marches'? Mahler is an obvious example, but the march permeates much of classical music as much as the dance.

                Sousa and Alford along with many less familiar names wrote music of genius, in my view, much of it instantly recognisable. Don't knock it!
                Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                Mark Twain.

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25234

                  #38
                  ah yes, another day of duty and self sacrifice , before a short mini break at Balmoral.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #39
                    I shpoul;d've guesssed that the Republican front would rear their heAads. When you think of it, Mr pee is quite right, the taxpayer would pay a minimum towards this. Great Britian is renowned ofr this kind of thing, where would weer be wiuouth it and the Monarchy is by far the cheaper way than a Presidential thingey. i am an out and out Royalist. Always will be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and quite rightly so.
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • LeMartinPecheur
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4717

                      #40
                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      Why?
                      If you acknowledge a need for a standing army for defence purposes - I'm not saying you do - it is inevitable that they will spend a lot of time with little to do. So ceremonials give them something to do that involves discipline, co-ordination, obeying orders, a degree of suffering (eg passing out or not passing out in the heat!), regimental pride, and a chance of public recognition.

                      It's the paradox of having an army. We want it to cost nothing while there's no need for it, but come the need we want it instantly there at irresistible fighting strength. Sorry chum, it just doesn't work like that - see 1918-39 for details.
                      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                      • amateur51

                        #41
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        If you acknowledge a need for a standing army for defence purposes - I'm not saying you do - it is inevitable that they will spend a lot of time with little to do. So ceremonials give them something to do that involves discipline, co-ordination, obeying orders, a degree of suffering (eg passing out or not passing out in the heat!), regimental pride, and a chance of public recognition.

                        It's the paradox of having an army. We want it to cost nothing while there's no need for it, but come the need we want it instantly there at irresistible fighting strength. Sorry chum, it just doesn't work like that - see 1918-39 for details.
                        Soldiers who faint and fall forwards while on parade also get to have their own chapter in books on facio-maxillary surgery - the guardsman's fracture

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                          Have you any idea just how much of classical music is based on/derived from 'awful military marches'? Mahler is an obvious example, but the march permeates much of classical music as much as the dance.

                          Sousa and Alford along with many less familiar names wrote music of genius, in my view, much of it instantly recognisable. Don't knock it!
                          Here here! They played the Grand march from Rienzi(Wagner) today; just to make apoint?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • verismissimo
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2957

                            #43
                            Originally posted by mercia View Post
                            Trooping the Colour privately sponsored - interesting, it could work

                            this year we are grateful to Kiwi Shoe Polish for their support

                            the Annual Pepsi Trooping
                            Duraglit and Blanko (as I recall).

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                            • Mr Pee
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3285

                              #44
                              Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                              If you acknowledge a need for a standing army for defence purposes - I'm not saying you do - it is inevitable that they will spend a lot of time with little to do. So ceremonials give them something to do that involves discipline, co-ordination, obeying orders, a degree of suffering (eg passing out or not passing out in the heat!), regimental pride, and a chance of public recognition.

                              It's the paradox of having an army. We want it to cost nothing while there's no need for it, but come the need we want it instantly there at irresistible fighting strength. Sorry chum, it just doesn't work like that - see 1918-39 for details.
                              Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                              Mark Twain.

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                              • Mr Pee
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3285

                                #45
                                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                                Duraglit and Blanko (as I recall).
                                And if you were cheating and taking a shortcut with your boots....Klear floor polish...

                                In RAF Music Services, we used to have annual competitions, in which the various regional bands, (not the Central Band, who were above such demeaning activities), were judged on musical standards by civilians, such as Edward Gregson and Philip Sparke, and on drill by Bandmasters from the Army and Royal Marines.

                                On one such occasion, the RAF College Band were being inspected by an Army Bandmaster and the following exchange took place:-

                                "Is that Klear on your boots, Corporal?"

                                "Yes it is, Sir", replied the RAF French Horn player.

                                "You wouldn't get away with that in the Army".

                                "That's why I joined the RAF."
                                Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                                Mark Twain.

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