Michael Gove on music education: Music Matters 15 June 2013

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  • amateur51
    • Nov 2024

    Michael Gove on music education: Music Matters 15 June 2013

    Tom Service talks to Michael Gove, the Secretary of State for Education, about his plans and policy for music education and where he believes music sits in the national curriculum.

    He also visits Sheffield to talk to musicians working with a new digital archive of English folk music called The Full English - which makes twelve collections available online to the public for the first time and gets a taster of pieces derived from the archive performed by Martin Simpson, Fay Hield, Nancy Kerr, Rob Harbron and Sam Sweeney.

    In his book "Forbidden Music" Michael Haas unravels the story of composers and musicians who were banned by the Nazis and the musical trends they established before being banned, murdered and exiled. Tom speaks to the author and assesses the book with the musicologists John Deathridge and David Nice.

    And as part of Radio 3's British Music Month he talks to Deirdre Mckay and Ryan Molloy about what it means to be a Northern Irish composer

    Michael Gove, the Full English and Forbidden Music - Jewish composers banned by the Nazis.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #2
    I'm quite alarmed at the prospect of Michael G*** being given the opportunity to make a political speech on Radio 3. But at least the rest of the programme looks interesting.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      I'm quite alarmed at the prospect of Michael G*** being given the opportunity to make a political speech on Radio 3. But at least the rest of the programme looks interesting.
      indeed
      I wonder if there will be real questions ?
      Though judging by the pathetic response to the NPME from many in the music education community I doubt that there will be a real challenge to his daft nonsense

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37678

        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        I'm quite alarmed at the prospect of Michael G*** being given the opportunity to make a political speech on Radio 3. But at least the rest of the programme looks interesting.
        Warning, however: have tissues at the ready because there are few stories more devastating in music than the fates of the "Entartete Musik" composers who suffered at the hands of the Nazis.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          indeed
          I wonder if there will be real questions ?
          Though judging by the pathetic response to the NPME from many in the music education community I doubt that there will be a real challenge to his daft nonsense
          Believe.me - I for one will be analysing his every word.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25209

            #6
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            indeed
            I wonder if there will be real questions ?
            Though judging by the pathetic response to the NPME from many in the music education community I doubt that there will be a real challenge to his daft nonsense
            Would it be fair to say that the NPME is full of fine words, lovely aspirations, and an acceptance that money is being cut by about 25% (Though "ring fenced" !!) over a few years?

            Tom Service seem to think that its an excellent plan !!!!
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • JimD
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 267

              #7
              Ask yourself what will appeal to the Tory faithful, if said by someone looking for the leadership, and you should be able to make a stab at whatever he is likely to say. That seems to be his basic 'principle'. Or is it: things must be as they were when I went to school; after all, look what it did for me. Excuse heavy irony.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                #8
                Tom Service did ask a few direct questions and Michael G*** did a reasonable job of sidestepping them, pushing his pet academies and appealing to the sensibilities of the Radio 3 audience. But what empy waffle it was.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  #9
                  I'm assuming I was the only person stupid enough to tune in?

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12815

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    I'm assuming I was the only person stupid enough to tune in?
                    ... well, Alpie, I have to say - I thought : Tom Service - nah, Michael Gove - nah, nah, nah...

                    So I listened on CD to some Mozart piano concertos - K271 Haskil / Sacher 1953; K 488 Michelangeli / Giulini 1951; K 503 Edwin Fischer / Josef Krips 1947.

                    I somehow feel I spent the time more profitably...

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                    • pastoralguy
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7758

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      I'm assuming I was the only person stupid enough to tune in?
                      I intend to listen on the iplayer when time allows but the very recent death of a close relative is preventing it. Not sure it'll make difference to my pessimistic future for the arts though.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... well, Alpie, I have to say - I thought : Tom Service - nah, Michael Gove - nah, nah, nah...

                        So I listened on CD to some Mozart piano concertos - K271 Haskil / Sacher 1953; K 488 Michelangeli / Giulini 1951; K 503 Edwin Fischer / Josef Krips 1947.

                        I somehow feel I spent the time more profitably...
                        Indeed, you did.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                          I intend to listen on the iplayer when time allows but the very recent death of a close relative is preventing it.
                          Very sorry to hear this. Best wishes.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7758

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Very sorry to hear this. Best wishes.
                            Many thanks, Ferney. Much appreciated.

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                            • amateur51

                              #15
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... well, Alpie, I have to say - I thought : Tom Service - nah, Michael Gove - nah, nah, nah...

                              So I listened on CD to some Mozart piano concertos - K271 Haskil / Sacher 1953; K 488 Michelangeli / Giulini 1951; K 503 Edwin Fischer / Josef Krips 1947.

                              I somehow feel I spent the time more profitably...
                              I admire your taste, vints (as in all matters ). I do not know the Michelangeli performance.

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