Neglected 20th Century French composers

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
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    #76
    "Shameless plugs" are more than allowed, Roly - they're welcome. It's the shameful ones that get binned.

    Best wishes for the performance.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
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      #77
      Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
      A shameless plug (if that's allowed?), in case anyone is interested. Our church choir is performing Vierne's Messe Solennelle in a concert this coming Saturday evening near Tunbridge Wells. Some more popular, short pieces follow and the concert ends with Parry's extended (and infrequently performed, so far as I can tell) anthem 'Hear my Words, ye People'.

      PM me if interested and I can supply more details (e.g. where and when) - free refreshments as well, if the programme is insufficiently tempting on its own!

      I'm assuming that blatant concert advertising is frowned upon, hence no specific details provided here - let me know if I'm wrong and I'll add them.

      Hosts please feel free to remove this post (and accept my apologies) if it breaks forum rules or etiquette in any way!
      I'm sure nobody on this forum will object, Rolmill; I'm always plugging jazz gigs I am about to attend, then reporting on them afterwards, and no one pays the blindest bit of attention!

      Thanks though for reminding me - I must get on with my introductions here: plenty of opportunity is presented by the weather keeping me indoors!

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #78
        Jean Cartan (1906-1932) died tragically young from tuberculosis. He had studied with Dukas alongside Messiaen and Duruflé at the Paris Conservatoire in the mid to late 1920s, but followed a Neo-classical aesthetic influenced as much by Roussel, who strongly championed him, as by Stravinsky, as is well illustrated in the attractive diminutive Introduction & Allegro for oboe, horn, clarinet and piano of 1928 below. At one and the same time, in common with many of his contemporaries, one can speak sharing a common immediatly identifiable aesthetic outlook turned to personal ends specific to himself:

        Jean Cartan: Introduction et Allegro for Piano and Wind QuintetFrederic Sánchez Muñoz, fluteMarc Lachat, oboeMiquel Ramos Salvadó, clarinetMaria José García ...

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
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          #79
          Also born in 1906 and an alumnus of the Paris Conservatoire, where he would become a professor of chamber music, Pierre Capdevielle, who lived untl 1969, shared Roussel's influence with Jean Cartan, but his was a very different spirit, inspired by other concerns. He was for many years France's representative at the prestigious ISCM (International Society for Contemporary Music), and in 1961 was made a Chevalier of the order of the LĂ©gion d'Honneur. Some idea of his stylistic breadth can be sampled from the tumultuous late-ish piano and orchestral Concerto del Dispetto (1959) - spoiler: this is poor audio quality:

          Pierre Capdevielle (1906-1969) (France)« Concerto del dispetto » for piano and orchestra (1959)Pianist : Agnelle BundervoëtDir : Manuel Rosenthal 1- Capricci...
          Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 28-10-19, 16:20. Reason: Duff original link

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #80
            Jacques Chailley (1910 - 1999) lived a particularly rich musical life - one too detailed to go into in depth here; but from Wiki we find out that he studied composition in the round with Nadia Boulanger and Claude Delvincourt, and subsequently conducting with Pierre Monteux, Willem Mengelberg and Bruno Walter, became a musicologist specialising in Mediaeval music, co-founding a theatre group devoted to antique plays, and in his field elucidating the evolution of musical language from the Baroque to the Romantic. Controversy persists over allegations of role in the blocking of Jewish students from entering the Paris Conservatory in 1942 while under his charge, but Chailley is szaid to have protected his students from press-ganging into work for the Nazis, was involved in the CP-led Resistance against the Nazi occupation, alongside a number of fellow composers, and escaped POW imprisonment. Further prestigious official posts fell to him during the remainder of his life.

            Chailley's compostional background in Ravel and Roussel was refracted through a lifelong passion for Mediaeval music, though he himself can best be described as Neo-Romantic. Here is his triumphant First Symphony of 1945:

            http://www,youtube.com/watch?v=-aVRLCyPRWo
            Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 28-10-19, 18:39.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
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              #81
              Chailley's closeness to the Jeune France group of composers reacting against the prevalent Satie/Stravinsky aesthetic in the late 1930s chimed with André Jolivet's acknowledgement of that first symphony's first movement's influence over his first symphony. Growing awareness of Jolivet's importance to French modern music in Britain disqualifies him from the thread discussion, as also Daniel Lesur; not so the remaining founder member of La Jeune France, Yves Baudrier (1906 - 1988), whose name in the concert-going public's mind has it seems been eclipsed by his short-lived reputation as film composer. His short tone poem Le grand voilier was composed in 1939:

              Auteur : Yves Baudrier (1906-1988)Titre : Le Grand voilier pour orchestre, poème symphonique (1939)Interprètes : Manuel Rosenthal ; Orchestre National de l'O...


              Possibly Baudrier's most celebrated score was that for the gripping RĂ©sistance film LaBataille du Rail, of 1944

              AAA, bataille, atjT4RvB40urMQQTURqiD8NGqAhN, 3hSxy51EnvbKvr0xlnyy007DukseCGx
              Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 28-10-19, 19:47. Reason: More duff links!

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
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                #82
                Elsa Barraine (1910 - 1999) is the one woman composer included in this résumé. She studied composition under Dukas at the Conservatoire, achieving First Prize there in harmony at age 15. At 19 she won the Prix de Rome for a cantata, La vierge guerrière, only the fourth woman composer to do so since the competition's inception in 1803, and seems to have garnered sexist put-downs for her music not being "feminine" enough, forcefully countered by her championing issues of sexuality and gender in her music and chosen subjects, among them ballet music on Colette's Claudine à l'école (1950). Barraine, of Jewish heritage, was fully involved in French musicians' resistence to the Nazi occupation in WWII through the Front National des Musiciens, having already composed an anti-fascist symphonic poem titled Pogromes in 1933. The style of her music, with the exception of a single work written using serialism - Musique rituelle (1967) for organ, gongs and xylorimba inspired by the Tibetan Book of the Dead, her music is described as tonal with a strong personal sense of harmonic colour, and if the linked piece below, Crepescules & Fanfare for horn and piano, written in 1936, is characteristic, one senses anticipations of Henri Dutilleux:



                A symphony is also available on youtube.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #83
                  Jean-Luis Martinet (1912 - 2010), the last composer of the generation under consideration for mention, studied under Messiaen; he is the oldest composer of a group with strong left-wing political inclinations in the late 1930s. Martinet's relationship to the up-and-coming school of Boulez and Barraqué is an interesting and paradoxical one. In 1959 Claude Rostan wrote:

                  "J.I. Martinet, a late convert to atonality, had previouisly undergone the influence of Debussy, Stravinsky, Bartók and Messiaen (Orphée, La Trilogie des Promethées, Sept Poèmes de Rene Char). He then made his debut in twelve-note music with some remarkable pieces for string quartet which attracted a lot of attention. Here he seemed to have found himself more effectively than ever before. Then suddenly, in the course of the last two years , he turned to the kind of music derived from the so-called 'progressist' aesthetic recommended by the official Soviet theoreticians - that is to say, 'music that can easily be understood by the masses'". (Rostand, C, 1960 Trends and Tendencies in Contemporary French Music, in Twentieth century Music: A Symposium, Ed Rollo Myers, Calder, London, P.153).

                  Here are two illustrative examples; firstly the hyper-exotic Orphée, from a pre-serial 1944/45:

                  Auteur : Jean-Louis Martinet (1912-2010)Titre : Orphée, triptyque symphonique (1944-45)Structure : 1. Orphée devant Eurydice (0:00) ;2. La Descente aux Enf...


                  and from the Mouvement Symphonique No 1, the first example of the post-serial turnaround: listeners may detect echoes of Panufnik, Lutoslawsky or Bacewicz in the vigorous strings writing of the main part, and what one can only describe as wholesale borrowings from the conclusion of Honegger's Liturgique, presented in the spirit of a transcendental Messiaen organ coda:

                  Auteur : Jean-Louis Martinet (1912-2010)Titre : Mouvement symphonique n° 1 (1953)Structure : 1. (0:00) ; 2. (07:42)Interprètes : Jean Martinon ; Orchestre Na...
                  Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 04-11-19, 18:33. Reason: Italicizations

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
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                    #84
                    Three composers remain to be covered - I shall try and finish this project tomorrow.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
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                      #85
                      Many thanks, S_A - looking forward to investigating the work of these composers.
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                      • mathias broucek
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #86
                        Apologies if this has been covered above but Samazeuilh's string quartet is a stunner... Sounds a bit like Debussy's work in the same genre. You'd never say that this was by an almost unknown composer...

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
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                          #87
                          Originally posted by mathias broucek View Post
                          Apologies if this has been covered above but Samazeuilh's string quartet is a stunner... Sounds a bit like Debussy's work in the same genre. You'd never say that this was by an almost unknown composer...

                          https://www.amazon.co.uk/Franck-Sama...2352827&sr=8-1
                          Thanks, mathias. Gustave Samazeuilh falls rather before the period I had in mind for this thread, but not having previously heard of him I am grateful for your mentioning him, and I will investigate sometime.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #88
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Many thanks, S_A - looking forward to investigating the work of these composers.
                            And thanks in return for the appreciation ferney. I find the music of that particular sub-generation of French music particularly rich and potentially enduring, and given the accessibility of most of it to the lover of, let's say, Prokofiev or Martinu, I find it surprising that Radio 3 has overlooked most of these composers for as long as I can remember.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #89
                              Of Polish descent, the music of Marcel Landowski (1915 - 1999) lies firmly within what might be described as a post-Rousselian French symphonic tradition, and in style is close to Honegger, who recognised his abilities and gave encouragement from the start of Landowski's compositional career. As such he continues a lineage that withstood the qualitative aesthetic shift represented by Messiaen's serially-orientated students - if not by Messiaen himself, whom they respected - and, as Honegger pupil Harry Halbreich has said, voiced its criticism of the new trends towards abstraction in no uncertain terms. Inspired by religious subjects, Landowski did not share Honegger's growing scepticism. The symphonies available on youtube show the evolution of thought: here are the first and third, respectively from 1949 and 1964:

                              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                              Auteur : Marcel Landowski (1915-1999)Titre : Symphonie n° 3 « des Espaces » (1964)Structure : 1. Grave (0:00) ; 2. Allegro deciso (11:26)Interprètes : Gérard...


                              How sad that music of such sturdiness, grace and beauty should not be known about!

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                              • cmr_for3
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                                • Nov 2015
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                                #90
                                Just started my first subscription to a thread here - this looks really interesting.

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