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  • Barbirollians
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11530

    #46
    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
    Am I the only Brahmsian revisionist around here? No-one else got into the splendid Helsingborg/Manze Symphonies?(IRR 4/2012/NS). Loved Mackerras/SCO, Berglund/COE and the great bite and verve of Harnoncourt/Berlin Phil live too...
    Does Chailly fall into the revisionist school ?

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    • Hitch
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 360

      #47
      Jaap van Zweden and the Netherlands PO have my ear at the moment.

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      • ostuni
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 545

        #48
        There was a lot I liked about Manze's Brahms when I first heard them, though I do remember finding some of the speeds (2nd mvts of 1 & 2) unexpectedly slow. I must re-listen. And yes, I also loved Berglund/COE when it first came out - even more overdue for a re-listen. So far, I've just heard Chailly's 1 & 2, and I think they're absolutely splendid. I just love the sound of that orchestra: quite the best-sounding woodwind principals anywhere, by my reckoning; warm brass, divided violins, rich cellos & basses. And Chailly's phrasing (which I've been much enjoying while listening again to his & Freire's PC1 last week) is full of little felicities which I miss when listening to some other versions.

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        • verismissimo
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2957

          #49
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          Does Chailly fall into the revisionist school ?
          Apparently, Barbs. But I've been quite unable to discern from the reviews of the Barbican concerts in what way exactly. Anyone clear?

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #50
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Did you BBM ? When I last looked surprisingly buying the four CDs of the symphonies separately on Amazon was cheaper than the box.

            I know some people find the sound and textures a bit thick but in my opinion they are immensely satisfying performances. The Fourth was the last of them I bought and was sitting unopened on the shelf until a couple of weeks ago . The playing of the BPO is out of this world the sound of those strings gives me goosebumps . The performance of the 4th is propulsive yet has a slow movement of such tenderness .The third movement is truly [I]giocoso[I] and the finale's passacaglia is superbly structured and inexorable .

            Very much a library choice I would say - and the Hayden Variations are pretty wonderful too and Nanie a fascinating piece unknown to me .
            Unfortunately not, barbs(other cds have been bought!!), but if the individually selling for a cheaper price then, that is even better, as someone has said in another post that they not had the reissue treatment yet!!
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #51
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Does Chailly fall into the revisionist school ?
              I wouldn't have said so - from the live 3rd/D Minor Piano Concerto (with Aimard) on R3 from the Barbican recently I would say that he refreshes the Leipzig tradition ...

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