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  • richardfinegold
    Full Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 7659

    #16
    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    I do rather like haitink's interpretations of brahms's music. Has he done them on LSO Live?
    According to Arkivmusic, the answer is yes

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #17
      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
      According to Arkivmusic, the answer is yes
      Ah, in that case there is no other alternative but ...........
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
        Ah, in that case there is no other alternative but ...........
        Available thus:



        ... notice that only the Second Serenade is included.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12798

          #19
          ... is it not the received opinion that Haitink's earlier Brahms with the Concertgebouw is much preferable to his later performances with the the LSO or Boston??

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... is it not the received opinion that Haitink's earlier Brahms with the Concertgebouw is much preferable to his later performances with the the LSO or Boston??
            It is certainly the case that the recorded sound of those earlier sets is generally (if not universally) considered to be superior to that on the LSOLive set. Opinions (as always) differ about the performances/interpretations.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #21
              Yes, the LSO live of Brahms 3 with the 2nd serenade has a dull, lifeless perspective... I don't know the Amsterdam Brahms well, but I prefer the Bruckner of that Dutch vintage to almost any of his later efforts - swift and direct, the musical argument utterly clear, without exaggeration. Fine, natural recorded perspective. Rather like Rattle with the CBSO - the first partnership was special, learning and exploring together, impossible to replicate.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #22
                That's a pity about the LSO Live set. But encouraged by the Concertgebouw recording.
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • soileduk
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 337

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  That's a pity about the LSO Live set. But encouraged by the Concertgebouw recording.
                  Individual discs £3.99 at the grocers. Why not symphony 2 which comes with the dual concerto?

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                  • Thropplenoggin
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1587

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    That's a pity about the LSO Live set. But encouraged by the Concertgebouw recording.
                    I'm surprised you haven't snapped up the Klemperer box set I pointed you to. Impeccable performances. An absolute bargain.
                    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                    • soileduk
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 337

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                      I'm surprised you haven't snapped up the Klemperer box set I pointed you to. Impeccable performances. An absolute bargain.
                      What Throppers sed too.

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                      • gradus
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5606

                        #26
                        For me the Furtwangler recordings of the symphonies especially those from the forties are beyond compare, closely followed by those of Toscanini.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                          I'm surprised you haven't snapped up the Klemperer box set I pointed you to. Impeccable performances. An absolute bargain.


                          I have! My wiofe is giving that to me for my birthday!! :)
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Petrushka
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12242

                            #28
                            Brahms is one of those composers who has grown on me as I've got older and it's with some surprise that I see that I have accumulated several cycles of the symphonies in a relatively short period of time with many other individual issues. I've got complete cycles from Karajan (x2), Haitink (x3), Böhm, Solti, Rattle, Walter, Furtwängler and Boult.

                            My favourites amongst these are the Boult and Haitink's Boston set. Haitink's LSO set is a disappointment apart from a quite magnificent 2nd. Boult is glorious throughout.

                            Only have Arrau/Haitink, Gilels/Jochum, Pollini/Abbado and Brendel/Abbado in both Piano Concertos, one or two others as single issues.

                            The only recoding of the Violin Concerto I had for many years was Heifetz and the Chicago SO/Reiner - what a disc!
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Barbirollians
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11672

                              #29
                              Menuhin/Kempe in the Violin Concerto is a magical record - although I have obtained a great deal of pleasure from numerous other recordings from Heifetz, Neveu and Stern to Perlman, Mutter and Haendel

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                              • richardfinegold
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 7659

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                Brahms is one of those composers who has grown on me as I've got older and it's with some surprise that I see that I have accumulated several cycles of the symphonies in a relatively short period of time with many other individual issues. I've got complete cycles from Karajan (x2), Haitink (x3), Böhm, Solti, Rattle, Walter, Furtwängler and Boult.

                                My favourites amongst these are the Boult and Haitink's Boston set. Haitink's LSO set is a disappointment apart from a quite magnificent 2nd. Boult is glorious throughout.

                                Only have Arrau/Haitink, Gilels/Jochum, Pollini/Abbado and Brendel/Abbado in both Piano Concertos, one or two others as single issues.

                                The only recoding of the Violin Concerto I had for many years was Heifetz and the Chicago SO/Reiner - what a disc!
                                I have the Heifetz--who doesn't?-- but the one that I've been playing the most is Kogan/Monteux. I also like Perlman.

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