Simon Heffer presenting British music throughout June: Saturday Classics

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  • amateur51

    #31
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

    Seriously, there must be loads of articulate, knowledgeable, employable people out there who know about British Music.
    Antony Hopkins for example ... Rob Cowan and Jonathan Swain

    Ooops have I spoken out of turn?!

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25272

      #32
      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      I would like to hear British music covered the way in which British art is being covered by James Fox on BBC4 - right now!!

      Apologies - at 8 pm
      that is during the Champions League Final.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • amateur51

        #33
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        I think the English generally (as distinct from the British) don't feel a strong need to go round telling people they're British. In the case of music, I don't think patriotism comes into it: people simply appreciate the music and appreciate the chance to hear it. That bowtie conjures up images of British jingoism. No?
        For me it evokes English male upper-class jingoism I'm afraid.

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26609

          #34
          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
          Ooops have I spoken out of turn?!
          Not at all

          Didn't expect this thread to turn controversial...!
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Anna

            #35
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            that is during the Champions League Final.
            Of course, Champions League final: The biggest German invasion of Britain since the fifth century as Borussia Dortmund face Bayern Munich Trouble is, we cannot chant "two world wars, etc."

            Actually, does it really matter who is presenting the programme?

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30723

              #36
              Originally posted by Anna View Post
              However, I remember enjoying Simon Heffer's last British Music programmes very much (I think there was quite a discussion about it here with all of the posts being appreciative)
              That's as I remember it. I only dipped into one of the programmes, but I was quite favourably impressed. But for those who enjoy a little joke, his clubs are given as Beefsteak, Garrick, MCC and Pratt’s ...
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Anna

                #37
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                That's as I remember it. I only dipped into one of the programmes, but I was quite favourably impressed. But for those who enjoy a little joke, his clubs are given as Beefsteak, Garrick, MCC and Pratt’s ...
                Well, I remember, when his last series of British Music was on, I posted about how impressed I was with such a 'grown-up' Saturday Classics and the dissenters said 'have you no idea of his various scribblings' to which I replied: 'No, never heard of him, it's a good programme' I also remember it was the first time I heard a Peter Warlock choral composition, which I liked a lot.

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                • EdgeleyRob
                  Guest
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12180

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Anna View Post
                  Of course, Champions League final: The biggest German invasion of Britain since the fifth century as Borussia Dortmund face Bayern Munich Trouble is, we cannot chant "two world wars, etc."

                  Actually, does it really matter who is presenting the programme?
                  It matters who is presenting the Champions League Final,ITV's Andy Townsend v Sky's Gary Neville,no contest.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25272

                    #39
                    I think it does matter who gets given such high profile, influential jobs.
                    We have a nation full of talented people, and good messages really matter.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Flosshilde
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      #40
                      Perhaps the PoW would do a better job (he was terribly keen on Parry, I believe)

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                      • amateur51

                        #41
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        That's as I remember it. I only dipped into one of the programmes, but I was quite favourably impressed. But for those who enjoy a little joke, his clubs are given as Beefsteak, Garrick, MCC and Pratt’s ...
                        I wonder if he pays his own fees or if they're regarded as good sources of political & social intelligence by his employers in Sark or wherever

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                        • Simon

                          #42
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          I tended to cringe when I saw Stars and Stripes in people's gardens in the USA.
                          Good heavens! Why on earth would you cringe? They are American; they are flying an American flag. Surely nothing unusual there. Now, if you'd said they were flying the Jolly Roger, I could understand your worries...


                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          If I saw union flags similarly here I would be suspicious.
                          Suspicious of what? There's a chap two villages away who has a flag in his garden all the time, I think. I'm sure he's getting on for 90. He still gardens a bit and occasionally you see him. Pleasant, sensible, decent and always good for a chat. A thoroughly nice old gent, as far as I know.

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                          • Simon

                            #43
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            I think it does matter who gets given such high profile, influential jobs.
                            We have a nation full of talented people, and good messages really matter.
                            You're being silly again, ts! Just because someone's political views don't coincide with yours doesn't necessarily mean that they are untalented, you know!

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #44
                              I hope these programmes will be worth the listen!!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • antongould
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8860

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Anna View Post
                                ...............

                                Actually, does it really matter who is presenting the programme?
                                To certain members it matters a lot, seemingly, or is that only on certain programmes??

                                I have just listened again to one of the originals and whilst SH does alright it is noticeable that for certain pieces, if not composers, he gives credit to the producer, the already mentioned Finzi's By Footpath and Stile being one such discovery.

                                Perhaps we are in the land of the eternal R3 question how much of any playlist is down to the presenter, the producer, the guest, the Facebooker, the texter or the Fweeter?

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