Simon Heffer presenting British music throughout June: Saturday Classics

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  • amateur51

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Amsy, you could have warned that that damn Union Jack bow tie would hit you in the face again
    Sowwy french frank, I'm sort of inured to it after all these years.

    I had no idea about your Anglo-Welsh roots, btw

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30283

      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      I had no idea about your Anglo-Welsh roots, btw
      Wel, great grandmother born Trefdraeth in Anglesey. Her parents came from Llanfair-yn-neubwll and Llangadwaladr
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • amateur51

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Wel, great grandmother born Trefdraeth in Anglesey. Her parents came from Llanfair-yn-neubwll and Llangadwaladr
        Respeck! (as they say in Dwygyfylchi )

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        • EdgeleyRob
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12180

          I've just listened via i player to todays programme.

          Thoroughly enjoyed every note.

          I think the Bate Viola concerto is sensational (a new work to me) and I've ordered the Dutton CD.
          Very reminiscent of RVW in parts (Bate was a pupil apprently)and yet an individual voice shines through.What a heart wrenching slow movement.
          The excerpt form the Wreckers was superb.I wonder if Britten (Grimes) and RVW(Riders To The Sea) knew this work.
          If I'm being picky,it would have been nice to have the whole of Arnold 5.

          Thank you Radio 3.

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          • Tony Halstead
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1717

            Bate Viola Concerto... SO that's what it was that was so very gripping that I ( driving and missing the announcement) simply had to pull in to a layby to listen to it properly. Unfortunately I missed the end as well, but kept thinking that it had a lot of Vaughan Williams in it and maybe a touch of Bartok. I will definitely order the CD.

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
              I had no idea about your Anglo-Welsh roots, btw
              Please sir, please sir, I've got Welsh roots too!

              My mother's maternal grandmother (I think, although sometimes it's her mother) was a Llewellyn. Her (my mother's) father was from Yorkshire, & she was born in Scotland. My father was from England.

              As far as I know there's no Irish in the family

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              • amateur51

                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                Please sir, please sir, I've got Welsh roots too!

                My mother's maternal grandmother (I think, although sometimes it's her mother) was a Llewellyn. Her (my mother's) father was from Yorkshire, & she was born in Scotland. My father was from England.

                As far as I know there's no Irish in the family
                That's a fine mirepoix of British cultural genes you have there, Flossie

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                • Flosshilde
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  Yeah, I'm just a crazy mixed-up kid

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30283

                    Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                    Bate Viola Concerto... SO that's what it was that was so very gripping that I ( driving and missing the announcement) simply had to pull in to a layby to listen to it properly. Unfortunately I missed the end as well, but kept thinking that it had a lot of Vaughan Williams in it and maybe a touch of Bartok. I will definitely order the CD.
                    I'd never heard of Stanley Bate (1911-1959) but I did check the Grove article - sadly appears he committed suicide at an early age.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      Very un derrated and neglected composer.
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30283

                        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                        Very un derrated and neglected composer.
                        And it does occur to me that Radio 3 could do a lot more (this airing is something, however) in this field - after all, Classic FM does it all the time. Didn't it plug Górecki's 3rd before Radio 3?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12180

                          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                          I've just listened via i player to todays programme.

                          Thoroughly enjoyed every note.

                          I think the Bate Viola concerto is sensational (a new work to me) and I've ordered the Dutton CD.
                          Very reminiscent of RVW in parts (Bate was a pupil apprently)and yet an individual voice shines through.What a heart wrenching slow movement.
                          The excerpt form the Wreckers was superb.I wonder if Britten (Grimes) and RVW(Riders To The Sea) knew this work.
                          If I'm being picky,it would have been nice to have the whole of Arnold 5.

                          Thank you Radio 3.
                          So good I listened again this morning.

                          That Bate viola concerto especially has knocked me for six

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                          • antongould
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                            So good I listened again this morning.

                            That Bate viola concerto especially has knocked me for six
                            Just finished listening, I found it excellent, as was, IMHO, the last series. Whilst I much enjoyed the Bate, The Wreckers was for me the highlight....it seems I have had so many wrong preconceptions about the piece and its composer!

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                            • EdgeleyRob
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12180

                              Originally posted by antongould View Post
                              Just finished listening, I found it excellent, as was, IMHO, the last series. Whilst I much enjoyed the Bate, The Wreckers was for me the highlight....it seems I have had so many wrong preconceptions about the piece and its composer!
                              Yes I was impressed too.
                              A completely different sound world I know,but I couldn't help thinking of Grimes and Riders to the Sea listening to this snippett.
                              There is a complete set on Amazon,a bit pricey though.
                              Last edited by EdgeleyRob; 02-06-13, 13:15.

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25209

                                Do soloists not want to play stuff like the Bate viola concerto, or do the promoters always hold sway?

                                Fair play to heffer, he played some interesting stuff to say the least.
                                I really do wonder if the way that the BBC marketed this series (and the choice of presenter) adds to or reduces audience numbers.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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