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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37703

    #61
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    That reminds me of my having told someone a long time ago that, while most others at school were listening to The Beatles and the Stones, I was listening mainly to Boulez and Stockhausen...

    Anyway, there's simply no telling how a child might respond to this, that or the other music although it's generally best, I think, to take them to live performances and observe their responses than see what happens when they listen to recordings. A friend once took his 6 year old son to a Boston SO concert that opened and closed with a Mozart symphony and the concerto in the first half was one of Prokofiev's two for violin (I forget which). The young lad had previously been to at least one of the big Tchaikovsky ballets and was enthralled, but I think that this was his first live orchestral concert experience. He loved the first half and was very enthusiastic about what he was hearing. The second half opened with a certain composer's Variations for Orchestra; he loved this, too and, when he saw an elderly man with a stick walking up to the rostrum to acknowledge the applause, his father explained that this was Elliott Carter, who had written the piece that had just been played. The little fellow was utterly thrilled. At the end of the symphony that followed (which he also very much enjoyed), he asked his father "but where's Mr Mozart?"...

    Now I rather doubt that most people would assume that a 6 year old would be content to sit through almost half an hour of Carter, but this boy didn't just sit through it - he was clearly concentrating and taking it all in as far as he was able.


    Wonderful story, ah!

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    • salymap
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5969

      #62
      I'vefound Overtures very useful in getting young cousins interested. Things like 'Zampa' stick in the mind andafter Fantasia, which I now think was rather bad, was shown, they recognised quite a few of the works.

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37703

        #63
        Originally posted by salymap View Post
        I'vefound Overtures very useful in getting young cousins interested. Things like 'Zampa' stick in the mind andafter Fantasia, which I now think was rather bad, was shown, they recognised quite a few of the works.
        Disney's Fantasia, I take it you mean saly? My father said it put him off Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony forever because he couldn't get images of Babycham out of his head whenever listening to it.

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        • amateur51

          #64
          Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
          Oooh, Master T would love that!
          Iguessed as much, Taps. It's a right rivetting piece with a great Hungarian finale - he'd be bopping all over the shop, demanding creme eggs with menaces

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          • amateur51

            #65
            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
            That reminds me of my having told someone a long time ago that, while most others at school were listening to The Beatles and the Stones, I was listening mainly to Boulez and Stockhausen...

            Anyway, there's simply no telling how a child might respond to this, that or the other music although it's generally best, I think, to take them to live performances and observe their responses than see what happens when they listen to recordings. A friend once took his 6 year old son to a Boston SO concert that opened and closed with a Mozart symphony and the concerto in the first half was one of Prokofiev's two for violin (I forget which). The young lad had previously been to at least one of the big Tchaikovsky ballets and was enthralled, but I think that this was his first live orchestral concert experience. He loved the first half and was very enthusiastic about what he was hearing. The second half opened with a certain composer's Variations for Orchestra; he loved this, too and, when he saw an elderly man with a stick walking up to the rostrum to acknowledge the applause, his father explained that this was Elliott Carter, who had written the piece that had just been played. The little fellow was utterly thrilled. At the end of the symphony that followed (which he also very much enjoyed), he asked his father "but where's Mr Mozart?"...

            Now I rather doubt that most people would assume that a 6 year old would be content to sit through almost half an hour of Carter, but this boy didn't just sit through it - he was clearly concentrating and taking it all in as far as he was able.
            Great story - many thanks ah!

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            • Tapiola
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              • Jan 2011
              • 1688

              #66
              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
              Iguessed as much, Taps. It's a right rivetting piece with a great Hungarian finale - he'd be bopping all over the shop, demanding creme eggs with menaces

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              • Tapiola
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                • Jan 2011
                • 1688

                #67
                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                Great story - many thanks ah!
                Brilliant, ah. Wholeheartedly seconded.

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                • EdgeleyRob
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12180

                  #68
                  How about Mahler - fit for children ?

                  My son and daughter (now aged 21 and 26) have never shown any interest in classical music,indeed they can't stand it,despite my best efforts.

                  Now here's a thing.

                  Driving my 8 year old grandson home after school one afternoon this week,just caught the last movement of Mahler 5 on Radio 3.
                  "This is nice music grandad" he said.
                  This from one who calls everything I listen to as 'wierd songs'.
                  When I asked him why he liked it he said it sounded like everybody in the world was happy.
                  Blimey,something to build on there surely!

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                  • amateur51

                    #69
                    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                    How about Mahler - fit for children ?

                    My son and daughter (now aged 21 and 26) have never shown any interest in classical music,indeed they can't stand it,despite my best efforts.

                    Now here's a thing.

                    Driving my 8 year old grandson home after school one afternoon this week,just caught the last movement of Mahler 5 on Radio 3.
                    "This is nice music grandad" he said.
                    This from one who calls everything I listen to as 'wierd songs'.
                    When I asked him why he liked it he said it sounded like everybody in the world was happy.
                    Blimey,something to build on there surely!
                    Lovely post ER - I've just filled up

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25210

                      #70
                      that is great ER.
                      Sow the seeds, and something will grow sometime.
                      But when and how is a mystery.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37703

                        #71
                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        that is great ER.
                        Sow the seeds, and something will grow sometime.
                        But when and how is a mystery.
                        Serendipity, plus a little help from ones friends.

                        (But don't tell the God Squad!)

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12180

                          #72
                          Well,after the mini success with Mahler 5,Brahms 1st piano trio on Radio 3 this afternoon was apparently boring.
                          Still,can't win 'em all,not giving up on this.

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25210

                            #73
                            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                            Well,after the mini success with Mahler 5,Brahms 1st piano trio on Radio 3 this afternoon was apparently boring.
                            Still,can't win 'em all,not giving up on this.
                            never mind ER. Give it time.

                            Till then, there's always the Boss...
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cReBk3wXPU
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • EdgeleyRob
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12180

                              #74
                              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                              Well,after the mini success with Mahler 5,Brahms 1st piano trio on Radio 3 this afternoon was apparently boring.
                              Still,can't win 'em all,not giving up on this.
                              Latest on eldest grandson's classical journey,Saturn from the Planets this morning was 'scary'.
                              Yes but did he like it ?,apparently not. not sure that this is going anywhere.

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