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  • Tapiola
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    • Jan 2011
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    Brahms - fit for children?

    Taking my 8 year old to hear Brahms 3 tomorrow night.

    Child abuse?

  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
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    #2
    Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
    Taking my 8 year old to hear Brahms 3 tomorrow night.

    Child abuse?

    Does the child play an instrument? Many musicians can cite going to a concert as around this age as a formative experience. Let us know how it went.

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    • Don Petter

      #3
      It's the work which 'turned me on' to Brahms when I was a couple of years older, so I hope it works its magic again. Please report back.

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      • rauschwerk
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        When I was 10, my mother took me to hear Arrau play the D minor concerto. I went to sleep, so no harm done at any rate.

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26536

          #5
          Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
          Taking my 8 year old to hear Brahms 3 tomorrow night.

          Child abuse?


          Depends entirely on the child... (which makes me think that on the same basis, it could be audience abuse too )

          But I'm certain you wouldn't be doing it if that were a real danger.

          What else is on the programme?
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Tapiola
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            • Jan 2011
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            #6
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post

            Depends entirely on the child... (which makes me think that on the same basis, it could be audience abuse too )

            But I'm certain you wouldn't be doing it if that were a real danger.

            What else is on the programme?
            It may turn into audience abuse (it's a student band )!

            It's rather a strange programme; the two L'Arlesienne suites in the first half.

            The nipper is learning piano currently and has an extemporisation technique to rival a young JSB. He certainly doesn't get his musicality from his oul da.

            I do think he will enjoy it though; the same band's Christmas concert went down a treat with him (its bleeding chunks nature notwithstanding).

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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
              • 25209

              #7
              Well if you don't try....it will be great. !! Personally, I would take kids to see some C20 music too. Imagine Shosty #5 when you are 10 .

              incidrntally, encourage that improvisation stuff. the tracks that performers tend to be pushed along have a nasty habit of marginalising such skills. One of mine showed promise at it, and was never really pushed down a route that might have been really productive.
              Not so true for organists, of course.....
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Ferretfancy
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3487

                #8
                I've met some nice families with young children in the Arena at the Proms. Quite often if a small boy or girl can't see very well, we are able to steer them to the front with no objections from the addicts in the front row. In my experience, the children are usually transfixed by the music.

                At the RAH, children under 5 are not supposed to be brought into the Promenade. A few years ago, a middle aged man with a tiny girl sitting on his shoulders gate crashed the Arena just as Nigel Kennedy was about to perform the Elgar Violin Concerto. This boor nearly pushed people over in the process, and stood for the performance bouncing the little girl on his shoulders while she fidgeted with boredom. After the concerto he pushed his way past me, and I told him never to do that again, but naturally he was quite indifferent. I should stress that this sort of disruption is rare.

                Tapiola, I imagine that your 8 year old will enjoy everything, I certainly hope so.

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                • amateur51

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
                  It may turn into audience abuse (it's a student band )!

                  It's rather a strange programme; the two L'Arlesienne suites in the first half.

                  The nipper is learning piano currently and has an extemporisation technique to rival a young JSB. He certainly doesn't get his musicality from his oul da.

                  I do think he will enjoy it though; the same band's Christmas concert went down a treat with him (its bleeding chunks nature notwithstanding).
                  Sounds a nifty programme for an 8-year old, the Bizet will get him buzzing and then he gets an interval and then he gets some Brahms - triffic

                  Bleeding chunks, you say?! Beware a man obviously on the lookout for toe-tapping, shoulder-swaying young 'uns - it'll be Roger wright in search of his future audience and he'll have a bag of Werther's Originals in his hand

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #10
                    Don't ever take achild to either Brahms' Variations on a theme of Haydn or the Handel work, both for pianosolo. Iwent to a recital given by a friend and they seemed to last for ever.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26536

                      #11
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Imagine Shosty #5 when you are 10
                      It was Shosty #15 when I was 14 that did for me...
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25209

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        It was Shosty #15 when I was 14 that did for me...
                        explains a bit !Lucky it wasn't ..well...some of the others... (Shosty needs careful selection for the young I suspect !!)
                        Mind you lucky its not Brahms 2. STILL struggling with that.

                        14 ? it was more Blondie than Blomstedt for me at that age.

                        But seriously, that is the point.Kids find that stuff exciting, I'm certain. Listen to the other stuff they choose...metal etc....
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Tapiola
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Sounds a nifty programme for an 8-year old, the Bizet will get him buzzing and then he gets an interval and then he gets some Brahms - triffic
                          Good point, ams!

                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Bleeding chunks, you say?! Beware a man obviously on the lookout for toe-tapping, shoulder-swaying young 'uns - it'll be Roger wright in search of his future audience and he'll have a bag of Werther's Originals in his hand
                          I'll make sure he's full of Mars Bar at the interval to prevent any craving for boiled sweets from Roger.

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                          • Tapiola
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1688

                            #14
                            Originally posted by salymap View Post
                            Don't ever take achild to either Brahms' Variations on a theme of Haydn or the Handel work, both for pianosolo. Iwent to a recital given by a friend and they seemed to last for ever.


                            I played in an orchestration of the Handel Variations whilst at school and, yes, it was interminable.

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                            • amateur51

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tapiola View Post
                              Good point, ams!



                              I'll make sure he's full of Mars Bar at the interval to prevent any craving for boiled sweets from Roger.
                              Music concerts AND Mars Bars - wish you'd been my dad, Taps

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