Have just set my HD recorder - BBC 2, 21.00-22.40 hrs, 17 Sept!
The private lives of string quartets
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Originally posted by Stanley Stewart View PostHave just set my HD recorder - BBC 2, 21.00-22.40 hrs, 17 Sept!
Everyone who 's waiting until eleven o'clock : IT'S STARTED![FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Richard Tarleton
Mystery solved - it's at 2100 everywhere except BBC2 Wales, where it's at 2300. so we're all right
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostDon't panic at the start of your "tape", Stanley - Katie Derham overruns only by three minutes!
Everyone who 's waiting until eleven o'clock : IT'S STARTED!
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Richard Tarleton
Catch-up TV is a great boon, ferney, you could still have watched Beck....
BBC Wales to blame for confusion over times - I think they vary the national schedules every so often just to prove they can. Usually it's for a village pump rugby match which anyone with any interest in would be at. Last night they were showing Dad's Army at 9.00 and that Cymru-noir police series Hinterland (which I've never watched) at 9.30.
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostYes - a whole string (ho-ho) of clichés, wasn't it? Quite watchable even so, until the terrible sentimentality of the last 10mins-quarter of an hour[....]
Cliches? Sentimental? Maybe, but this is an American film. I suspect a British film would have been more buttoned up..
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostI don't think that that's a good enough excuse, messel'n.
I'm also curious what any string players who have seen the film thought of the way that the (non-musical) actors 'played' their instruments.
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostFor me, the way in which Peter's diagnosis of his early Alzheimer's affected the others, and triggered their sense of their inidividual needs, in some cases supppressed in the interests of the ensemble, was proportionately conveyed. I wonder if you felt that the emotion displayed was superficial (see OED definition)? .
I'm also curious what any string players who have seen the film thought of the way that the (non-musical) actors 'played' their instruments.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Many thanks Ferney.
Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostThe daughter looked least convincing - the way she was holding the bow, the left-hand fingering. I daren't voice my opinion about how the bowing of the Quartet didn't seem to quite match what was being heard; it'll quite probably turn out to have been close-ups of the actual Brentano 4tet players that was filmed if I do!
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Some suspect and somewhat contrived treatment of issues (sch as "the blokes having affairs, the mother/daughter conflict, the dialogue about Music, the inner jealousies between first and second violinists", as fhg points out) and yes, some appallingly sentimental and unrealistic stuff towards the end that was then made even worse by cut-'n'-paste bits of what was not merely the star but also the saving grace of the show, namely Op. 131 itself which, even by the most exalted standards of Beethoven at his very best, seems somehow to be above them.
I recall a performance at Dartington several years ago by the wonderful French ensemble Quatuor Diotima in which the first half comprised some Webern, Steve McNeff and (David Matthews, specifically his sixth quartet, if I'm allowed to mention that here) and the second half was occupied by what was by far the most outrageously modern piece in the entire programme and was one of the finest and most engaging accounts of Op. 131 that it has ever been my privileged good fortune to hear...Last edited by ahinton; 18-09-16, 17:42.
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