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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #91
    Originally posted by mercia View Post
    this obituary to NDM says he conducted Macbeth and the Fantasia from DFoS at the Strauss Festival
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...r-1392549.html
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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #92
      Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
      I'm not sure. I was still at school in 1947,
      Oops! Sorry, HS, I didn't mean to suggest or imply ... (I remember from your reminiscences of William Golding last year that you were still nobbut a lad at the time!)
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      • salymap
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5969

        #93
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Oops! Sorry, HS, I didn't mean to suggest or imply ... (I remember from your reminiscences of William Golding last year that you were still nobbut a lad at the time!)

        That's okay then ferney. Whereas I was nobbut a girl but got to rehearsals.

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        • Stanfordian
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 9315

          #94
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          Did you watch the performance, Stan? any thoughts? i am pretty new to the work, and it sounded great to me, but would be interested in your opinion.
          Nagano certainly looked like a man who would find it difficult to find more enjoyable work !
          I did enjoy watching Nagano's performance with the DSOB on Sky Arts 2. Although owing to Nagano's uneven performances with the Hallé Orchestra in the 1990s he is not a conductor that I have warmed to or feel that orchestral players find especially inspirational. I do like to hear the Alpine Symphony from time to time and my preferred version is by the Wiener Philharmoniker/Christian Thielemann on DG. I also like recordings by the Berliner Philharmoniker/Herbert von Karajan on DG and the Dresden Staatskapelle/Rudolf Kempe on EMI/Brilliant Classics.

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          • visualnickmos
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3610

            #95
            This is I suppose, is one for the "Bargain" thread, but it may be of interest here:



            A five disc EMI of Klemperer conducting R Strauss and Wagner - all remastered (although, given EMI's great technical expertise at the time of the recordings, hardly seems fixing what ain't bust!)

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            • Thropplenoggin
              Full Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1587

              #96
              Researching my first potential Strauss purchase (and grateful for all the advice and suggestions to be found in this thread), one name that hasn't been mentioned (or perhaps I've overlooked it) is Haitink.

              His 1970 Concertgebouw version seems to get a lot of love on the 'tax dodgers' sites.

              His more recent CSO version, although in immaculate sound, seems to be deemed more of an average run though than being anything more magical.

              Any thoughts on this?

              Incidentally, in all likelihood, I'll plump for this:

              Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 28-03-13, 18:34.
              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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              • Roehre

                #97
                Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                Researching my first potential Strauss purchase (and grateful for all the advice and suggestions to be found in this thread), one name that hasn't been mentioned (or perhaps I've overlooked it) is Haitink.

                His 1970 Concertgebouw version seems to get a lot of love on the 'tax dodgers' sites.

                His more recent CSO version, although in immaculate sound, seems to be deemed more of an average run though than being anything more magical.

                Any thoughts on this?

                Incidentally, in all likelihood, I'll plump for this:

                Haitink's Letzte Lieder, Heldenleben and Don quixote with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, and his recent Alpensinfonie are very difficult to beat.
                His Bavarian Daphne is in the same top league IMO.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                  Haitink.

                  His 1970 Concertgebouw version seems to get a lot of love on the 'tax dodgers' sites.
                  YES!!! Idiot that I am, I should've included this on my "list". Lovely, lovely performance.

                  Don't know the later version, but Haitink's Alpensinfonie recordings are highly regarded, too (I only know the studio one - very good indeed; but there is a highly esteemed fellow Forumista whose opinion will carry far more weight than my own!)
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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                    Haitink's Letzte Lieder, Heldenleben and Don quixote with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, and his recent Alpensinfonie are very difficult to beat.
                    His Bavarian Daphne is in the same top league IMO.
                    Roehre, your making me spend money!!
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12263

                      Haitink's 1970 recording of Ein Heldenleben was the second Haitink LP I bought (1973) and second Strauss LP and it set in motion a big Richard Strauss phase that the issue shortly after of the first Kempe set continued. That 1970 Concertgebouw recording is excellent, one of the best in the catalogue. I wore the LP out with constant playing!

                      Not mentioned by anyone yet but Strauss's music for Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme as recorded by Kempe is a real delight, full of humour, witty quotes and good tunes.

                      Yes, I was lucky in seeing Kempe conduct Don Juan in my first classical concert but didn't realise at the time just how lucky.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Beef Oven

                        Yes, I was lucky in seeing Kempe conduct Don Juan in my first classical concert but didn't realise at the time just how lucky.

                        Lucky Devil!!!

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12263

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                          Yes, I was lucky in seeing Kempe conduct Don Juan in my first classical concert but didn't realise at the time just how lucky.

                          Lucky Devil!!!
                          May 19 1972. The rest of the programme was Bruch Scottish Fantasia (with Kyung-Wha Chung, violin) and Beethoven 4.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • Ferretfancy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3487

                            Does anybody here remember Kempe's famous performance of the Alpine Symphony at the RFH with the RPO? It caused quite a stir at the time. I have their studio recording from 1966, so the concert must have just preceded it. I wish I could have gone. The studio recording is exciting, but not as subtle or as well recorded as the Dresden version.

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              there's a Heldenleben/RPO/Kempe from the proms on youtube, unfortunately chopped in two (August 28 1974 ? ) - [Elvis on percussion ]

                              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

                              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
                              Last edited by mercia; 29-03-13, 05:58.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26540

                                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                                there's a Heldenleben/RPO/Kempe from the proms on youtube, unfortunately chopped in two (August 28 1974 ? ) - [Elvis on percussion ]

                                Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvHhKofz8OQ

                                Blimey, that's great mercia - I don't think I've ever seen him conduct. Odd left-arm technique, it's as though it's in an invisible sling, kept close to his side. Only watch then opening, not the best-sounding orchestral playing (horns ) in the world... and those hairstyles in the audience, rather surreal to see as the film itself is of such good quality it could be much more recent...

                                Thank you for posting this.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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