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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #76
    The composer's own recordings are worth seeking out; some of them in rather poor sound which blurs the detail in places not necessarily a bad thing: Strauss commented at the end of his life that younger conductors were getting the "Battle Scene" from Heldenleben too precise - he wanted more of a muddle!

    There's also some of the recordings from that 1947 Strauss Festival preserved:

    Strauss - The Last Concerts. Testament: SBT21441. Buy 2 CDs online. Alfred Blumen (piano) Philharmonia Orchestra, BBC Symphony Orchestra, Richard Strauss
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    • Karafan
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 786

      #77
      Endorse all the comments re Kempe's EMI studio recordings and would add to that the superb Alpensinfonie with the RPO (Kingsway Hall recording) now on Testament (Kenneth 'Wilkie' Wilkinson works his magic at the knobs and with a combination like that on the podium and at the mixing desks, how could it possibly fail?) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Horn-Concert...4422410&sr=8-2

      Also the splendid live Dresden radio broadcast recordings from March 1974 (now on Haenssler Profil). http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This is a magnificent Heldenleben with Kempe caught on the wing, and the Prélude à l'Après-midi d'un faune is langorous and intoxicating and is always the recording I turn to even in preference to HvK's exalted reading from the 1960s on DG. The Schumann is not to be sniffed at either....

      K.
      "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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      • Stanfordian
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 9314

        #78
        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        thanks Mr P for flagging that up.
        provided me with a good evenings entertainment. The documentary piece was less good than one might hope,(although worth seeing) but I enjoyed the performance a great deal.

        Bruckner 8 tomorrow. Hurrah !!
        Hiya teamsaint,

        I've also been watching the Nagano programme about the Alpine Symphony on Sky Arts. I have a number of the excellent recordings by the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin with Gunter Wand conducting from 1987/95. I saw the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin twice last September in Berlin and they were in quite wonderful form under their new Principal Conductor and Artistic Director Tugan Sokhiev.

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25210

          #79
          Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
          Hiya teamsaint,

          I've also been watching the Nagano programme about the Alpine Symphony on Sky Arts. I have a number of the excellent recordings by the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin with Gunter Wand conducting from 1987/95. I saw the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin twice last September in Berlin and they were in quite wonderful form under their new Principal Conductor and Artistic Director Tugan Sokhiev.
          Did you watch the performance, Stan? any thoughts? i am pretty new to the work, and it sounded great to me, but would be interested in your opinion.
          Nagano certainly looked like a man who would find it difficult to find more enjoyable work !
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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #80
            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
            At the risk of being accused of plugging Sky, Kent Nagano is conducting the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin in the Alpine Symphony tonight at 8pm on Sky Arts 2, preceded by a look at the work at 7pm.
            No need to apologise for that. I suspect that all Sky Arts did was to broadcast the Arthaus Musik DVD including the "extras". But why do the camera people have to draw attention to themselves by turning the orchestra upside down during the thunderstorm.
            Sorry, I was trying to keep off this particular work on this thread.
            I'll go away now.
            Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 28-03-13, 02:47. Reason: Spelling

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11700

              #81
              Norman del Mar made sadly few recordings of Strauss .His Also Sprach Zarathustra that was on CfP is very fine indeed.

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12255

                #82
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Thanks, HS. Could NDM have acted as Beecham's assistant at the 1947 Strauss Festival, do you know? He might well have been the conductor sals saw discussing a score with the composer.


                It's many years since I read Norman del Mar's Strauss biography but I am pretty sure that he does mention that he was Beecham's assistant at the 1947 Strauss Festival. Those three volumes are a fascinating read and I was lucky to read them at the same time as Kempe's first box came out (1973). I learnt an awful lot about the programmatic content of the Alpine and Don Quixote particularly and how it all relates to the music. What is so striking is how often Strauss's wonderful sense of humour is reflected in these scores, especially Don Q. Listening to them 40 years on, del Mar's analysis always comes to mind.

                I saw the books again in the Oxfam shop in Oxford a couple years ago. Wonder if they are still there?
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • richardfinegold
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7667

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
                  I have the complete Kempe/Dresden set and agree with JLW - it is wonderful. I have always had a soft spot for the two horn concertos (written nearly 60 years apart!) - learnt via the legendary Brain recordings, but Pyatt is also very good and I even enjoy Damm's permanent soft-focus wobble for Kempe . Also, the symphonic wind pieces (serenade, suite and symphony) are worth exploring as they are less often performed but contain much charming music - the COE winds made a fine recording under Heinz Holliger for Philips in the early 1990s.

                  The Kempe set is great, but for Metamorphasen I prefer Blomstedt with the same Orchestra. Szell's Strauss, particularly Don Quixote, is outstanding.

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                  • Roehre

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    It's many years since I read Norman del Mar's Strauss biography .... Those three volumes are a fascinating read and I was lucky to read them at the same time as Kempe's first box came out (1973). I learnt an awful lot about the programmatic content of the Alpine and Don Quixote particularly and how it all relates to the music. What is so striking is how often Strauss's wonderful sense of humour is reflected in these scores, especially Don Q. Listening to them 40 years on, del Mar's analysis always comes to mind.
                    that makes two of us -albeit that in my case Strauss arrived in 1976 and I borrowed the Del-Mar-set in 1977 (and bought a reprint mid1980s). (wondering whether a youngster would be so lucky to find these important books in any library these days)

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26539

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                      that makes two of us -albeit that in my case Strauss arrived in 1976 and I borrowed the Del-Mar-set in 1977 (and bought a reprint mid1980s). (wondering whether a youngster would be so lucky to find these important books in any library these days)
                      Three! I asked for and received the three books (in a handsome black cardboard cover) for Christmas during my big RS phase (late 80s I think). I often go back to them.
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #86
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Could NDM have acted as Beecham's assistant at the 1947 Strauss Festival, do you know?
                        this obituary to NDM says he conducted Macbeth and the Fantasia from DFoS at the Strauss Festival
                        Norman Rene Del Mar, conductor: born 31 July 1919; Principal Conductor, English Opera Group 1949-54; Conductor and Professor of Conducting, Guildhall School of Music 1953- 60, Royal College of Music 1972-90; Conductor, Yorkshire Symphony Orchestra 1954, BBC Scottish Orchestra 1960-65, Royal Academy of Music 1974-77; Principal Conductor, Academy of BBC 1974-77; CBE 1975; Principal Guest Conductor, Bournemouth Sinfonietta 1983-85; Artistic Director and Principal Conductor, Aarhus Symfoniorkester, Denmark 1985- 88 (Conductor of Honour 1989-94); books include Richard Strauss 1962- 72, Anatomy of the Orchestra 1981, Conducting Beethoven 1992; married 1947 Pauline Mann (two sons); died Bushey, Hertfordshire 6 February 1994.

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                        • salymap
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5969

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                          I'm not sure. I was still at school in 1947, but I suppose it is quite possible but I don't believe that NDM was second horn in the RPO at that time.

                          Sorry!

                          HS

                          BTW The 1947 recording of Heldenleben not only featured Dennis Brain but also that fine violinist (and bit of a rogue) Oscar Lampe. The duet towards the end would take your breath away with its sheer beauty.
                          Well I hadn't started work but had a spell when I went to a lot of rehearsals with an old school friend,then at Trinity College of Music.
                          Itreally doesn't matter but we were seated in G block stalls at the RAH and Strauss was standing blocking the view of th conductor. I plump for Beecham, but can't swear to it.

                          I'm going to listen to lots of Strauss CDs today as he's one of my favourites.

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                          • amateur51

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                            At the risk of being accused of plugging Sky, Kent Nagano is conducting the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin in the Alpine Symphony tonight at 8pm on Sky Arts 2, preceded by a look at the work at 7pm.
                            Nice cheap evening's broadcasting, it appears ...



                            Very glad everyone enjoyed it

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                            • amateur51

                              #89
                              For release in April, 'live' performances by Kempe and Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR of Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra and Bartok's Miraculous Mandarin op. 19 Symphonic Suite for Orchestra

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                              • Karafan
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 786

                                #90
                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                For release in April, 'live' performances by Kempe and Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR of Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra and Bartok's Miraculous Mandarin op. 19 Symphonic Suite for Orchestra

                                http://www.mdt.co.uk/bartok-strauss-...-hanssler.html
                                Cheers, Amy!
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