Richard Strauss: Orchestral music

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  • Barbirollians
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11682

    #31
    Kempe's box is very fine and a great way in to these works . I am pleased to have Barbirolli's Ein Heldenleben and Metamorphosen too . Isserlis is very good in Don Quixote too I think.

    My favourite Metamorphosen is another vote for the VPO/Previn - masterful and immensely moving . There is almost another layer of meaning to the work conducted by Previn of German Jewish descent .

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    • LeMartinPecheur
      Full Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4717

      #32
      The 'complete' Kempe is the foundation of my Strauss orchestral collection but I'm slowly adding all those magnificent Reiner discs too. The wind music has been mentioned and there's a complete(?) 2-CD survey here http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...s+klaus+scholl

      For totally OTT uber-orgasmic brass writing do try Festmusik der Stadt Wien: you'll either love it or hate it!
      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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      • amateur51

        #33
        Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
        While I would cheerfully consign most of Richard Strauss's orchestral oeuvre (songs excepted) to Room 101/the Burning Fiery Furnace/Dante's innermost circle of hell, I wouldn't want to be without Kempe's Don Quixote but the earlier 1958 Berlin Philharmonic recording (with Tortelier) rather than that from Dresden.

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        • amateur51

          #34
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          The editorials express how I feel about this recorded repertoire, too. But Heldenlebens by Beecham (his first), Mengelberg and Barbirolli would join them (and Reiner and Szell did some excellent recordings, too).


          To which the only response is a Pythonesque "You, lucky, lucky ... " What a start to a concert-going life!
          In complete agreement with those Ein Heldenlebens, ferney plus von Karajan's 1959 recording

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          • Richard Tarleton

            #35
            Many of my most treasured recordings already mentioned, inc. ferney's 4LS with Janowitz (coupled on my CD with Metamorphosen and Tod), Kempe/Tortelier DQ (Dresden), Reiner/Janigro DQ and several others.

            EA, Ein H, DQ, Also Sprach I love dearly. Several versions of some. Tod for some reason makes me slightly queasy - can't quite put my finger on it - and I've never got to grips with Sinf. Domestica. I never play Till as it comes on R3 too often.

            Caliban did you sample Tate/ECO Metamorphosen along with others?

            Can anyone recommend a performance of the oboe concerto?

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            • Julien Sorel

              #36
              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
              Can anyone recommend a performance of the oboe concerto?
              Heinz Holliger (also conducting) / Chamber Orchestra of Europe (coupled with a fine Metamorphosen. But I don't like opulent performances of the latter and Holliger's is quite spare, austere). Best prices I can find http://www.amazon.de/Strauss-Oboe-Co...4374823&sr=1-6

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              • Richard Tarleton

                #37
                Originally posted by Julien Sorel View Post
                Heinz Holliger (also conducting) / Chamber Orchestra of Europe (coupled with a fine Metamorphosen. But I don't like opulent performances of the latter and Holliger's is quite spare, austere). Best prices I can find http://www.amazon.de/Strauss-Oboe-Co...4374823&sr=1-6
                Thanks - I like austere too

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25209

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  The Four Last Songs (Soprano & orchestra) - as near to heaven as we're likely to get. (And with Herbie & the Berlin Band supporting Gundula Janowitz *, closer than I'm ever likely to get! Other versions are readily available, many of them very good indeed.)



                  ( * = the emoticon is actually part of the spelling of her name. It's like a sort of umlaut.)
                  well if a man can't risk £1.66 on a recommendation like that, when will he ever?!

                  look forward to hearing this very much.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #39
                    I admit I haven't read all of this but #1 states that RS died in 1945.

                    Actually I think it was 1948 as I saw him at the RAH, either in 1947 or early 48, standing beside the conductor,[?]. I was told later that there was a Strauss Festival and that's why he was here.

                    Couldn't hear what he was saying but he was bending the conductor's ear as he queried things.

                    I'd just started going to rehearsals at 17 and didn't realise he was so important then

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11682

                      #40
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      well if a man can't risk £1.66 on a recommendation like that, when will he ever?!

                      look forward to hearing this very much.
                      It is a gorgeous performance but Janowitz to my ears had one of the most beautiful soprano voices in recorded history and her Countess for Bohm is magnificent - her Porgi Amor would definitely be on my desert island list.

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        #41
                        Originally posted by salymap View Post
                        Actually I think it was 1948 as I saw him at the RAH, either in 1947 or early 48, standing beside the conductor,[?]. I was told later that there was a Strauss Festival and that's why he was here.

                        Couldn't hear what he was saying but he was bending the conductor's ear as he queried things.

                        I'd just started going to rehearsals at 17 and didn't realise he was so important then
                        Saly could the conductor have been Georg Solti?. There is a nice bit of film of Solti and Strauss at a rehearsal in London, Strauss taking the baton, GS pointing out where the sections were as Strauss' eyesight was poor...here's a still from it, can't find the film



                        There is a touching description of their first meetings at Garmisch in Solti's memoirs, and of course he conducted at Strauss's funeral.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          It is a gorgeous performance but Janowitz to my ears had one of the most beautiful soprano voices in recorded history and her Countess for Bohm is magnificent - her Porgi Amor would definitely be on my desert island list.
                          There aren't s enough!

                          From a wonderful "Le Nozze di Figaro" conducted by Georg Solti at Paris Opera Garnier in 1980.The very famous stage production by Giorgio Strelher.Fabulous c...
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Not to mention her Grafin from Capriccio, with Bohm, her Fiordiligi with, er, Bohm....

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #44
                              Actually, Solti and Janowitz don't seem to agree on tempo a couple of times in the last youTube video - this is even better:

                              aus Mozart´s "Figaro"niemand singt das Stück so schön wie Gundula Janowitzjetzt und für alle Zeiten "Gundula Janowitz"no one sings the song as beautiful as G...
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                #45
                                Saly, you really should write your memoirs. You must has seen/met more great musicians than anyone around today.

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