John Cage. 'RYOANJI'

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  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7918

    John Cage. 'RYOANJI'

    Does anyone know and have an opinion of this work? I bought a cd of it in the Glasgow Oxfam shop recently and have played it many times. I find it oddly hypnotic. The version I have is with Cage himself with a double bass player who both plays and sings but I believe there are other versions of it.
  • Simon

    #2
    Not a work I know well, though I have listened to it on Youtube.

    Here's another though, perhaps equally oddly hypnotic in a way. The rhythm of the deeper notes is a perfect counterbalance to the melody of the solo artist, and the tintinabulation in the central movement is surely a touch of genius. The introduction of a vocal part towards the end betrays, I feel, the influence of more traditional forms of composition, and could perhaps be said to be an anachronism, not entirely in keeping with the rest of the work, which, as a whole, surely cries out for some discerning musicologist to make it the subject of a Ph.D. Enjoy.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #4
      I have the hat[now]ART recording in Cage's version for Quintet (Percussion, Oboe, Flute, DBass and Trombone) with John Patrick Thomas. A work completely at piece with itself and fascinating in its references to Gagaku traditions (which might, indeed, strike some "dirty ears" as "cat-like" - pause to give Says minor hard stare!) - delighted to hear you enjoyed it, p-guy.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #5
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        I have the hat[now]ART recording in Cage's version for Quintet (Percussion, Oboe, Flute, DBass and Trombone) with John Patrick Thomas. A work completely at piece with itself and fascinating in its references to Gagaku traditions (which might, indeed, strike some "dirty ears" as "cat-like" - pause to give Says minor hard stare!) - delighted to hear you enjoyed it, p-guy.
        I have that version
        wonderful stuff

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        • Simon

          #6
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          A work completely at piece with itself and fascinating in its references to Gagaku traditions
          Indeed, FHG, indeed. I could not have put that better myself.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #7
            Originally posted by Simon View Post
            Indeed, FHG, indeed. I could not have put that better myself.
            I wrote "at piece"?!

            I blame this cold!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Simon

              #8
              Nah. Freudian slip.

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