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Mahler: Symphony No.5
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I first heard the 1947 Walter performance a few weeks ago when I had purchased the Walter Sony Box. It does have a rightness about it that I find in all of Walter's Mahler.
My personal favorite in modern sound is split between the NYP Bernstein and the SACD MTT/SFSO. The latter does have a prolonged adigietto, but I think that MTT maintains the intensity in the slow tempo.
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Wensleydale Blue
So, would I be right in thinking that Mahler stopped being recorded after about 1980! Don’t get me wrong, some of these ancient recordings are amongst my favourites too – the live Tennstedt for sure, although I find Lenny’s VPO a bit ponderous at times and not that well recorded, but there must be a few more modern versions that people enjoy. The ones that I listen to the most are Inbal’s idiosyncratic Frankfurter recording on Denon and Chailly’s with the RCO, both of which have superb modern sound, as does Shipway’s much neglected but rather fine RPO version on their own label. I also have Rattle’s divisive BPO 5th version with its controlled brass and lovely string playing and an interestingly lush version by Saraste. The boxed set version by Bertini aint half bad and the Kondrashin M5 has crackingly raucous horns in the to be expected Russian fashion. The ones that I’d say stay away from are those by Zinman, Gatti and Dohnanyi, which don’t seem to add much to my listening experience.
Interestingly this was the first Mahler that I really got to love and, last year, I am a bit ashamed to say, it was the first that I had the pleasure of hearing live – The BBC Phil under Mena at the Bridgewater Hall, and I wasn’t disappointed one bit. I do envy all you Octogenarians who remember well a proms concert with such and such in 1964!
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amateur51
Originally posted by Wensleydale Blue View PostSo, would I be right in thinking that Mahler stopped being recorded after about 1980! Don’t get me wrong, some of these ancient recordings are amongst my favourites too – the live Tennstedt for sure, although I find Lenny’s VPO a bit ponderous at times and not that well recorded, but there must be a few more modern versions that people enjoy. The ones that I listen to the most are Inbal’s idiosyncratic Frankfurter recording on Denon and Chailly’s with the RCO, both of which have superb modern sound, as does Shipway’s much neglected but rather fine RPO version on their own label. I also have Rattle’s divisive BPO 5th version with its controlled brass and lovely string playing and an interestingly lush version by Saraste. The boxed set version by Bertini aint half bad and the Kondrashin M5 has crackingly raucous horns in the to be expected Russian fashion. The ones that I’d say stay away from are those by Zinman, Gatti and Dohnanyi, which don’t seem to add much to my listening experience.
Interestingly this was the first Mahler that I really got to love and, last year, I am a bit ashamed to say, it was the first that I had the pleasure of hearing live – The BBC Phil under Mena at the Bridgewater Hall, and I wasn’t disappointed one bit. I do envy all you Octogenarians who remember well a proms concert with such and such in 1964!
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Not everything gets worse, WB.
Back in the day, if you wanted to buy a set of Mahler Symphonies, you needed to negotiate easy terms with the local vinyl baron, borrow a morris Oxford to get them home, and then start saving for a gramophone to play them on.
Edit: Back on topic, I have an anonymous tape of a version of #5. Would be interesting to know who it is.....
If anybody was that interested , and expert enough , I could copy it and post it to them !!Last edited by teamsaint; 06-03-13, 20:19.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View Postyou needed to negotiate easy terms with the local vinyl baron, borrow a morris Oxford to get them home
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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No-one has mentioned Karajan yet. Richard Osborne was fairly dismissive about his recording of the 5th calling it (from memory) 'an expert run-through' but I think it is a good deal better than that. However, we are badly in need of recordings of Karajan's live Mahler which was something else again. I particularly recall R3 broadcasts of the 5th and 6th from Salzburg in 1978. My off-air tapes went long ago, alas, and I am surprised that these haven't resurfaced as commercial releases."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by JFLL View PostOr Sinopoli. I bought it in the charity shop today for 50p, but haven't heard it yet. Is it awful? (I also got the Szell Mahler 4 also for 50p., which they say isn't awful at all.]"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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