Originally posted by Petrushka
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Mahler: Symphony No.5
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Originally posted by Petrushka View PostI have the [Barbirolli] issue with the newly recorded missing horn part. As I don't know the recording without the correct horn bit could someone who knows about such things kindly provide a timed reference as to where it is? It will, if nothing else, persuade me to give it another listen."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by Petrushka View PostNo-one has answered this little poser yet. Do our resident horn experts know?
EDIT: just noticed that this Gramophone review indicates the position of the missing bit: 9 bars before fig. 20 ... http://www.gramophone.co.uk/HallofFa.../Review/Mahler"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostI know LaurieWatt does as he knows Nick Busch, but LW is currently in the USA I believe. There was talk of him going to hear the LPO & Vladimir J performing Mahler 5 in the Avery Fisher Hall in NYC and that concert is on Monday. On topics!! One hopes he will return with an answer to your question... and a review of the concert!
EDIT: just noticed that this Gramophone review indicates the position of the missing bit: 9 bars before fig. 20 ... http://www.gramophone.co.uk/HallofFa.../Review/Mahler"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Dear Petrushka
I could not help but notice your plight, so I have just played JB's Mahler 5, 3rd movement and I can inform you that the entrance of the horn obbligato at 12minutes and 13 seconds is where EMi inserted the retake. Jb's 'grunt' would, at the time of recording, have been more a sign of disapproval that the horn had not entered! I think it is a tribute to the EMI engineers that you have not been able to recognise where this bit of playing was inserted!
Enjoy!
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Pristine have just released a new remastering of the 1947 Walter Mahler 5... you can try the 2nd movement complete in 320kbps/mp3 form, that's all I've heard so far but it does sound remarkable! No wonder Andrew Rose says he's especially proud of this one!
If I can persuade myself to listen to Mahler 5 just now (currently short of time & obsessed with Schumann) I'll get this one in Pristine's always impeccable 24/48...
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Originally posted by Nimrod View PostDear Petrushka
I could not help but notice your plight, so I have just played JB's Mahler 5, 3rd movement and I can inform you that the entrance of the horn obbligato at 12minutes and 13 seconds is where EMi inserted the retake. Jb's 'grunt' would, at the time of recording, have been more a sign of disapproval that the horn had not entered! I think it is a tribute to the EMI engineers that you have not been able to recognise where this bit of playing was inserted!
Enjoy!"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostPristine have just released a new remastering of the 1947 Walter Mahler 5... you can try the 2nd movement complete in 320kbps/mp3 form, that's all I've heard so far but it does sound remarkable! No wonder Andrew Rose says he's especially proud of this one!
If I can persuade myself to listen to Mahler 5 just now (currently short of time & obsessed with Schumann) I'll get this one in Pristine's always impeccable 24/48...
http://pristineclassical.com/LargeWo...al/PASC382.php"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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OK - FINALLY got around to hearing the Pristine Restoration of the 1947 Walter Mahler 5, in its 24/48 Flac download guise...
Cardus called the 5th "one of the 7 wonders of the symphonic world"... Andrew Rose's version of the 1947 Walter is officially a miracle, and any Mahlerian who doesn't buy it is officially a Muppet. And don't ask me what officially means.
Or as The Player in Rosencrantz&Guildenstern said, "Nobody leaves this room without buying this Mahler 5th!... well, not without a very good reason!"
Shocked, like me, at your latewinter heatingbills, perhaps... oh come on, it's only 9 euros for lossless...Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 17-03-13, 02:08.
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostPristine have just released a new remastering of the 1947 Walter Mahler 5... you can try the 2nd movement complete in 320kbps/mp3 form, that's all I've heard so far but it does sound remarkable! No wonder Andrew Rose says he's especially proud of this one!
If I can persuade myself to listen to Mahler 5 just now (currently short of time & obsessed with Schumann) I'll get this one in Pristine's always impeccable 24/48...
http://pristineclassical.com/LargeWo...al/PASC382.php
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostBut until someone has both, we'll never know... can someone with that Sony box try the 320 kbps Pristine excerpt? It's not 24/48 and not really a fair comp. with a CD, but may give some idea...
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostBut until someone has both, we'll never know... can someone with that Sony box try the 320 kbps Pristine excerpt? It's not 24/48 and not really a fair comp. with a CD, but may give some idea...
Does anyone know where I can buy the CD?
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