Originally posted by MrGongGong
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What was your last concert?
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostI've never heard it like that, but something that particularly drew my attention yesterday evening was the way everything it does structurally (serially) is so clearly audible and at the same time so fascinating in its unfolding, and this is something really particular to Stockhausen whatever kind of material he's working with. I don't hear it as a homage to overtone singing but as something that from its own logic and momentum strayed into some related areas.
Did they do the poems in a language you understand?
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI wonder just how many of us were doing that (I'm not sure that I'd even do it at gunpoint)...
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostI don't think anyone thinks that you are important enough to worry about putting a gun to your head about anything at all (other than to rob you of your wallet)
Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostAnd to take a bullet in the nut over such a matter strikes me as imbecilic in the extreme
Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostI suspect there are many who would not want to sing along with LOH&G and The National Anthem but did not feel the need to tell us of this 'important fact'.
Anyway, as you wrote in another thread on LNOTP, "everyone is entitled to their opinion - it's part of the reason why this forum is so interesting"...Last edited by ahinton; 09-09-18, 11:35.
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostDid they do the poems in a language you understand?
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostYes, they did them in the original. Actually the only thing I found inappropriate about the performance was that most of them were done in a much too dramatic way - obviously they need to come across as informal and intimate, not as "performed". But this was also the problem last time I heard it (with Theatre of Voices at the Proms a few years ago). Not that I'd want everyone to do it like the original recording, but it does seem much more appropriate than the others in this regard.
At the same concert there was another piece which ended with performers one-by-one switching to a toy trumpet/keyboard and leaving the auditorium, still playing. It finished when the last performer left - faint traces of sound coming from the foyer (RNCM). I loved it, but it would rapidly become a cliche if repeated.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostQuite a few I think, great thing to and even better as I did live last month as part of a chorus alongside a good brass band! Lighten up a bit!
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostNo need! I'm not that bothered about people doing it if they want to; I just wouldn't want to do it myself (and not only because I'm a very bad singer!). Not only does it seem to me to be anachronistic given how long it is since the "British Empire" (arguably remembered now more in the New Year's Honours than anywhere else - DBE, CBE, OBE &c.) ceased to exist in any meaningful sense (in the sense that few today lived at a time when it did exist), but also Elgar was not, as far as I recall, at all enamoured of the idea that Arthur Christopher Benson's verses be added to the trio section of the first of his six marches and I rather doubt that he'd be especially happy about the end result being referred to by some people today as "Elgar's Land of Hope and Glory", but there you go(!)...
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Originally posted by Beresford View PostMy intro to live Stockhausen was Singcircle's Stimmung in Manchester in the 1970's Spine-tingling. Not much live Stockhausen in UK nowadays.
Regarding "world music", this is what Stockhausen had to say (in a letter to Rose, quoted in the liner notes of the latter's recording) about the origin of the techniques used in this piece, mostly composed during a period when he and his family spent some months living in an isolated house on Long Island: "I started composing this work with a lot of melodies, singing aloud all the time. But after a few days my work was only possible during the night. The children needed silence also during the day. So I began humming, did not sing loudly anymore, began to listen to my vibrating skull, stopped writing melodies of fundamentals, settled on the low B flat, started again and wrote Stimmung, trying out everything myself by humming the overtone melodies. Nothing oriental, nothing philosophical: just the two babies, a small house, silence, loneliness, night, snow, ice: pure miracle!"
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostJust do it and liberate your vocal chords, you may even enjoy it! Be a bathroom baritone!
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostThe bathroom would be the only suitable place, methinks (subject to its soundproof qualities) - and, for the record (though God forbid that the results, if any, would be recorded even if only as evidence that may later be relied upon in Court), it would be bass rather than baritone...
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