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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #61
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    I just started listening to it.......woke the cat up !
    Stick with it
    it's wonderful
    and the score is a work of great beauty
    (as all of his scores are)

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
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      #62
      Originally posted by Beef Oven
      I don't own this CD, but I've heard it and it's good. My friend Terry's got it. We call him Tel, he's real name is Terrence. Only his mum calls him that though (his father is deceased). His mum's quite old and frail.

      Anyway, at £4.20 incl p&p, why wait!!!?
      I'm wearing blue underpants
      (thought that might be useful in recommending some more Crumb music )

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
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        #63
        Originally posted by Beef Oven
        I don't own this CD, but I've heard it and it's good. My friend Terry's got it. We call him Tel, he's real name is Terrence. Only his mum calls him that though (his father is deceased). His mum's quite old and frail.

        Anyway, at £4.20 incl p&p, why wait!!!?
        cheers, Beefy. I'll see what the charity shops in Fareham have tomorrow, then make a decision !
        Not this Terry, by any chance.?
        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


        I don't know him at all.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
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          #64
          "My mum's got a washing machine"

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          • teamsaint
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            • Nov 2010
            • 25177

            #65
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            Stick with it
            it's wonderful
            and the score is a work of great beauty
            (as all of his scores are)
            I did. Just watched a youtube performance without reading anything about it . Amazing. I'll go back to it after having read more about it, which it clearly needs.
            I also had a look at some images of the score, and they are, as you say, quite beautiful.
            A great recommendation. Headphones job, though !! Cheers.
            Now, must get the washing on.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #66
              Originally posted by Beef Oven
              I am listening to it at the minute.

              It is not an easy listen.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqchvQeZjjo
              The Kronos version is my favourite
              but the Smiths do it very well (Panic free )

              I think it's one of the truly great pieces of the last 100 years in the way it draws on the past as well as having a global context and in it's use of extraordinary sonic events

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              • teamsaint
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                • Nov 2010
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                #67
                Originally posted by Beef Oven
                I am listening to it at the minute.

                It is not an easy listen.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqchvQeZjjo
                Sessions 8 will be a relaxing listen later on !!
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  Sessions 8 will be a relaxing listen later on !!
                  Followed by Metal Machine Music no doubt (Darling they're playing our tune)

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                  • Beef Oven

                    #69
                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    Sessions 8 will be a relaxing listen later on !!
                    I will come back to the George Crumb, Black Angels Quartet later in the week. I don't know whether I've played too much music or what today, but this work is not 'landing' with me.

                    Gonna move on to this now.....

                    William Schuman - Symphony #7

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #70
                      Most of the US composers I best love have been mentioned (Ives, Carter, Feldman, Sessions, Ruggles, Cage and, yes, Crumb) except for Milton Babbitt> If/when the "US String Quartet" Thread opens, can you please include this:
                      Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                      Meanwhile, feast your ears on this neglected masterpiece:
                      Soprano Tony Arnold sings Philomel, by Milton Babbitt (b. 1916) for voice and electroacoustic sound. Part of the Monadnock Music Festival 2010



                      ... by the way, am I allowed to mention Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Varese and Bartok?
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Meanwhile, feast your ears on this neglected masterpiece:
                        Soprano Tony Arnold sings Philomel, by Milton Babbitt (b. 1916) for voice and electroacoustic sound. Part of the Monadnock Music Festival 2010
                        Great stuff thanks

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                        • Beef Oven

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Most of the US composers I best love have been mentioned (Ives, Carter, Feldman, Sessions, Ruggles, Cage and, yes, Crumb) except for Milton Babbitt> If/when the "US String Quartet" Thread opens, can you please include this:
                          Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                          Meanwhile, feast your ears on this neglected masterpiece:
                          Soprano Tony Arnold sings Philomel, by Milton Babbitt (b. 1916) for voice and electroacoustic sound. Part of the Monadnock Music Festival 2010



                          ... by the way, am I allowed to mention Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Varese and Bartok?
                          No, they are not American for the purposes of this thread And the same goes for Dvorak

                          I rather hope we'll kick off in this thread soon with American Quartets, (we've mentioned Rochberg's quartets) so we can keep all 'American Classics' in one thread. Although you and MrGG have already begun the American quartets

                          P.S. ahinton has mentioned Babbitt.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                            No, they are not American for the purposes of this thread And the same goes for Dvorak
                            Well he didn't become an American citizen. Err ... neither did Bartok. As you were!

                            P.S. ahinton has mentioned Babbitt.
                            So he did; quite rightly disputing the generally held idea that Babbitt and Sessions are "dry and academic". (Presumably people who say this would prefer them to be "wet and dim"?)
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • EdgeleyRob
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              I'm sure we've discussed Crumb before ?
                              but
                              Black Angels is one of the greatest string quartets of the last century for starters
                              the most terrifying opening in music
                              and definitely not "relaxing classics"
                              I have just listened to this Mr G and found it very difficult.
                              I am glad I stuck with it but I'm not sure it's for me.

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                              • MrGongGong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                #75
                                Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                                I have just listened to this Mr G and found it very difficult.
                                I am glad I stuck with it but I'm not sure it's for me.
                                "difficult" ?
                                What particularly did you find difficult ?

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