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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Last night when I got home from an evening out with friends, I listened to a few CDs of American classical music; William Schuman’s violin concerto (Paul Zukofsky, Michael Tilson Thomas, Boston Symphony Orchestra DG); Charles Ives symphony #2 (Kenneth Schermerhorn, Nashville Symphony Orchestra, Naxos); Roy Harris symphony #9 (Kenneth Schermerhorn, Nashville Symphony Orchestra, Naxos); Elliott Carter Symphony #1 (Kenneth Schermerhorn, Nashville Symphony Orchestra, Naxos); and then Micheal Tillson Thomas' San Francisco recording of Appalachian Spring on RCA Red Label.

    This morning I listened to the CD of the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra’s version of Appalachian Spring on DG.

    Thinking about the BaL of March 2014, Tilson Thomas was the full orchestra recommendation, Orpheus were praised for their chamber version, but it was the 1973 composer-conducted original chamber version that was the top recommendation. I don’t have a copy of this and I believe it’s only available on download. At £20.06 for the CD from Amazon, £14.44 for a FLAC download from Presto and £12.89 from Qobuz, it’s a bit of a rip (intended pun).

    Does anyone have this recording and is it worth getting?

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    • Lat-Literal
      Guest
      • Aug 2015
      • 6983

      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      Last night when I got home from an evening out with friends, I listened to a few CDs of American classical music; William Schuman’s violin concerto (Paul Zukofsky, Michael Tilson Thomas, Boston Symphony Orchestra DG); Charles Ives symphony #2 (Kenneth Schermerhorn, Nashville Symphony Orchestra, Naxos); Roy Harris symphony #9 (Kenneth Schermerhorn, Nashville Symphony Orchestra, Naxos); Elliott Carter Symphony #1 (Kenneth Schermerhorn, Nashville Symphony Orchestra, Naxos); and then Micheal Tillson Thomas' San Francisco recording of Appalachian Spring on RCA Red Label.

      This morning I listened to the CD of the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra’s version of Appalachian Spring on DG.

      Thinking about the BaL of March 2014, Tilson Thomas was the full orchestra recommendation, Orpheus were praised for their chamber version, but it was the 1973 composer-conducted original chamber version that was the top recommendation. I don’t have a copy of this and I believe it’s only available on download. At £20.06 for the CD from Amazon, £14.44 for a FLAC download from Presto and £12.89 from Qobuz, it’s a bit of a rip (intended pun).

      Does anyone have this recording and is it worth getting?

      It is available on Spotify.

      That might be the least expensive way - via subscription.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
        It is available on Spotify.
        Thanks, Lat. I have Spotify and Apple Music, but I want a CD or download. I only use streaming to check things out or to listen to things that I don’t want to buy.

        streaming doesn’t tick my collector box.

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25202

          There is a used cd for abou£12 on amazon. There a couple of different listings of this cd.

          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 10906

            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            There is a used cd for abou£12 on amazon. There a couple of different listings of this cd.

            https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-li...condition=used
            I think you may have a single CD of this chamber version that a kind friend passed on.......your Amazon tracking skills might find it. CBS, blue cover/liner, Copland conducts Copland.

            Found it myself:



            Good prices both new and s/h available.
            Well worth getting, beefy!

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              There is a used cd for abou£12 on amazon. There a couple of different listings of this cd.

              https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-li...condition=used
              Thanks ts. These days, on account of space, my first port of call is a download, preferably Hi-Res. However, if there’s a big saving to be had, I’ll get the CD. The CDs of this recording work out to a similar prices a FLAC download.

              Many top flight CDs are available for under £4 incl. p&p, these days!!!

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25202

                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                Thanks ts. These days, on account of space, my first point of call is a download, preferably Hi-Res. However, if there’s a big saving to be had, I’ll get the CD. The CDs of this recording work out to a similar prices a FLAC download.

                Many top flight CDs are available for under £4 incl. p&p, these days!!!
                It turns out my pile of Copland CD contains a disc which has this on it.

                I just remembered.

                I'll burn you a copy if things are a bit short right now....
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Lat-Literal
                  Guest
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6983

                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  Thanks, Lat. I have Spotify and Apple Music, but I want a CD or download. I only use streaming to check things out or to listen to things that I don’t want to buy.

                  streaming doesn’t tick my collector box.
                  Oh ok - well, it's interesting although I'm not sure I want a dark hue inside "Simple Gifts". I will have to think on it. I do like Copland conducting Copland. There appears to be a vinyl copy of an earlier release for £8.20 but that won't be very helpful either. Have just noticed teamsaint's comments. Which CD is that one ts? I would be interested to know.

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10906

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Thanks ts. These days, on account of space, my first port of call is a download, preferably Hi-Res. However, if there’s a big saving to be had, I’ll get the CD. The CDs of this recording work out to a similar prices a FLAC download.

                    Many top flight CDs are available for under £4 incl. p&p, these days!!!
                    Well, you could get the single CD for £2.47 all in!

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25202

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      I think you may have a single CD of this chamber version that a kind friend passed on.......your Amazon tracking skills might find it. CBS, blue cover/liner, Copland conducts Copland.

                      Found it myself:



                      Good prices both new and s/h available.
                      Well worth getting, beefy!
                      Ah yes,it was lurking at the back of a the shelves.

                      I'll give it a spin when some rather sad sounding Dvorak has finished.....


                      Copland discs /collections do tend to be a bit confusing.....
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        I think you may have a single CD of this chamber version that a kind friend passed on.......your Amazon tracking skills might find it. CBS, blue cover/liner, Copland conducts Copland.

                        Found it myself:



                        Good prices both new and s/h available.
                        Well worth getting, beefy!
                        I don’t think this is the recording that won the BaL. This one seems to be the LSO. The BaL winner was the Columbia Chamber ensemble.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25202

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          I don’t think this is the recording that won the BaL. This one seems to be the LSO. The BaL winner was the Columbia Chamber ensemble.

                          It should have won though IMO......

                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            It should have won though IMO......

                            Can you get it off the shelf and check if it’s the LSO or CCE?

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                            • Pulcinella
                              Host
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 10906

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              I don’t think this is the recording that won the BaL. This one seems to be the LSO. The BaL winner was the Columbia Chamber ensemble.
                              We need ts to check the full listing for us: perhaps LSO is only mentioned on the front that we can see but is not the orchestra for all pieces?
                              The 'original' makes me think it may well be the CCE version.

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                                We need ts to check the full listing for us: perhaps LSO is only mentioned on the front that we can see but is not the orchestra for all pieces?
                                The 'original' makes me think it may well be the CCE version.
                                Yes, it crossed my mind that it might be that the LSO is the headliner. But I believe AC conducted the LSO in a recording of this.

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