Brahms: Piano concerti nos 1 & 2

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  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25210

    #76
    ah, so Nelsons and Grimaud don't want to sell CDs.

    However, I should think that playing works by the same composer at big London shows,(likely to get reviewed) may well help the sales and marketing process. But perhaps it is all just happy coincidence.
    Last edited by teamsaint; 21-06-13, 06:27.
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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26538

      #77
      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      ah, so Nelsons and Grimaud don't want to sell CDs.

      However, I should think that playing works by the same composer at big London shows,(likely to get reviewed) may well help the sales and marketing process. But perhaps it is all just happy coincidence.
      It's all symbiotic, ts, tertally symbiotic...
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25210

        #78
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        It's all symbiotic, ts, tertally symbiotic...
        Sales may indeed experience what I Once heard described as a " serendpitous Uplift".

        Nice.
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        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26538

          #79
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          " serendpitous uplift"
          Brilliant !!

          I think that's what ER... No, I won't go there..


          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • teamsaint
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            • Nov 2010
            • 25210

            #80
            i did of course mean Serendipitous, with two I's, but you try posting on here from an old model blackberry...
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #81
              That Barenboim set, is it on the Klemperer Legacy series?
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              • silvestrione
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                • Jan 2011
                • 1708

                #82
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                That Barenboim set, is it on the Klemperer Legacy series?
                Some confusion here?

                Barenboim's Brahms Concertos are with Barbirolli.

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                • Zucchini
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 917

                  #83
                  Far, far better and absolutely outstanding are the circa 1990 live performancees with Celibidache and the Munich Philharmonic. Barenboim was perhaps then at the height of his powers, plays with immense freedom and confidence. It's rather wonderful to see Celibidache, who has to be helped to the platform, smiling with pleasure as DB spins his magic and supporting him with some brilliant solo playing from orchestra principals.

                  I have a Teldec video but I'm not aware that it made it to CD; contractual problems probably.

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                  • akiralx
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                    • Oct 2011
                    • 427

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                    Far, far better and absolutely outstanding are the circa 1990 live performancees with Celibidache and the Munich Philharmonic. Barenboim was perhaps then at the height of his powers, plays with immense freedom and confidence. It's rather wonderful to see Celibidache, who has to be helped to the platform, smiling with pleasure as DB spins his magic and supporting him with some brilliant solo playing from orchestra principals.
                    I also rather like the Tchaikovsky PC1 that Daz Baz (as Karafan and I like to call him) did with Celi around this time, which is on CD and DVD. The Schumann not so much.

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                    • BBMmk2
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #85
                      Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                      Some confusion here?

                      Barenboim's Brahms Concertos are with Barbirolli.
                      Ah, yesd, thanko you Silvestrione. That was the LvB PCs etc, that Barenboim reorded with Klemperer.
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • silvestrione
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                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1708

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                        Far, far better and absolutely outstanding are the circa 1990 live performancees with Celibidache and the Munich Philharmonic. Barenboim was perhaps then at the height of his powers, plays with immense freedom and confidence..
                        Interesting...I'd always thought that DB, as a pianist, was at the height of his powers very early, i.e. before he started to do so much conducting. The EMI Beethoven Sonatas, the Brahms with Barbirolli, the Brahms Clarinet Sonatas, the Schubert Wintereise with DFD. The ECO Mozart 24 is also excellent.

                        Slightly off-topic, but any other 1990ish performances I should try?

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                        • amateur51

                          #87
                          As a teenager in the late 1960s one of my prized possessions was a Rococo (Canadian label) LP bearing a 'live' performance of Brahms piano concerto no 1 given by Solomon with a very young Lorin Maazel (1956).

                          A few months ago I was delighted to re-acquaint myself with this wonderful performance issued by Guild



                          There is also another 'live' performance by Solomon with BPO/Jochum on Tahra, I believe but I cannot find it just at the moment.

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                          • Bamig

                            #88
                            I grew up with the Gilels / Jochum. A friend recently recommended the 70s Pollini / Abbado / [I]V[I]PO version of the 2nd concerto. It's a thrilling performance - soloist, conductor and orchestra are all really fired-up. Well worth a listen.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11697

                              #89
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              As a teenager in the late 1960s one of my prized possessions was a Rococo (Canadian label) LP bearing a 'live' performance of Brahms piano concerto no 1 given by Solomon with a very young Lorin Maazel (1956).

                              A few months ago I was delighted to re-acquaint myself with this wonderful performance issued by Guild






                              There is also another 'live' performance by Solomon with BPO/Jochum on Tahra, I believe but I cannot find it just at the moment.
                              Yes I was looking for that but it is nla it seems .

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                              • Barbirollians
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11697

                                #90
                                There is a bit of a familiarity breed contempt about some of the comments on the Gilels/Jochum - I also grew up with them and to be honest if I was forced to keep only one I think it would be this pairing . Everything is right for me - I love many other recordings of these great works but they are extremely satisfying all round .

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