A New Year List of favourites, symphonies 1 to 9

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  • scottycelt

    #61
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Hmm. Applying that rule would be interesting in the case of R.V.W. as the first one to be given a number was the eighth.
    It might be even more interesting in the case of Bruckner's 'un-numbered' No 0 ...

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    • Il Grande Inquisitor
      Full Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 961

      #62
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Hmm. Applying that rule would be interesting in the case of R.V.W. as the first one to be given a number was the eighth.
      The extra rule was useful for those 'named' symphonies which would otherwise not qualify, such as Messaien's Turangalila, Liszt's Faust (or Dante) Symphony... or even Strauss' Alpine Symphony...
      Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22110

        #63
        I could happily go for 9 No2s

        Beethoven
        Brahms
        Borodin
        Elgar
        Mahler
        Mendelssohn (up to when the singing starts)
        Nielsen
        Rachmaninov
        Schubert
        Schumann
        Sibelius
        Tchaikovsky
        Vaughan Williams

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        • Beef Oven

          #64
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          I could happily go for 9 No2s

          Beethoven
          Brahms
          Borodin
          Elgar
          Mahler
          Mendelssohn (up to when the singing starts)
          Nielsen
          Rachmaninov
          Schubert
          Schumann
          Sibelius
          Tchaikovsky
          Vaughan Williams
          I got booted off for a stunt like this!!!

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22110

            #65
            Originally posted by il grande inquisitor View Post
            the extra rule was useful for those 'named' symphonies which would otherwise not qualify, such as messaien's turangalila, liszt's faust (or dante) symphony... Or even strauss' alpine symphony...
            ...and of course the mighty manfred!

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            • scottycelt

              #66
              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              I could happily go for 9 No2s

              Beethoven
              Brahms
              Borodin
              Elgar
              Mahler
              Mendelssohn (up to when the singing starts)
              Nielsen
              Rachmaninov
              Schubert
              Schumann
              Sibelius
              Tchaikovsky
              Vaughan Williams
              Wot .. no Bruckner or Stenhammar ... ?

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22110

                #67
                Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                Wot .. no Bruckner or Stenhammar ... ?
                No not against that opposition - Bruckner 2 would just about get in the the top 9 Bruckner Symphonies.

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                • Beef Oven

                  #68
                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  No not against that opposition - Bruckner 2 would just about get in the the top 9 Bruckner Symphonies.
                  Try this. It'll make you change your mind.

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                  • scottycelt

                    #69
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    No not against that opposition - Bruckner 2 would just about get in the top 9 Bruckner Symphonies.


                    Howard Hanson's No 2, then? ... 'Pianopeter' on the old BBC Boards kindly recommended this to me ... now there was a true forum gentleman (in every sense) of the old boards definitely missed by some of us!

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20569

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Il Grande Inquisitor View Post
                      The extra rule was useful for those 'named' symphonies which would otherwise not qualify, such as Messaien's Turangalila, Liszt's Faust (or Dante) Symphony... or even Strauss' Alpine Symphony...
                      But you can see, I included the last of these as no. 4, following 1, 2 & Sinfonia Domestica. With Berlioz, you just follow the opus numbers for nos. 1 - 4.

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                      • Lateralthinking1

                        #71
                        1. Barber
                        2. Vaughan Williams
                        3. Copland
                        4. Brahms
                        5. Mahler
                        6. Sibelius
                        7. Santoro
                        8. Glass
                        9. Dvorak

                        Not the easiest of tasks, particularly in the upper numbers. I need to acquire more knowledge. There could easily have been several - all? - by Vaughan Williams. Rachmaninov should by rights have qualified (2,3) and possibly Tchaikovsky (5,6). Was tempted to include Brian (1), Glazunov (1,7), Lloyd (6), Shostakovich (7) and Villa Lobos (8). Hovered briefly over Part (4). I actually prefer Brahms 3rd to his 4th but Copland had to go in. A lot of others too numerous to mention but rules is rules etc.
                        Last edited by Guest; 31-12-12, 23:26.

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12229

                          #72
                          1. Elgar
                          2. Mahler
                          3. Brahms
                          4. Sibelius
                          5. Shostakovich
                          6. Vaughan Williams
                          7. Dvorak
                          8. Bruckner
                          9. Beethoven
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • EdgeleyRob
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                            Not the easiest of tasks, particularly in the upper numbers. I need to acquire more knowledge. There could easily have been several - all? - by Vaughan Williams. Rachmaninoff should by rights have qualified (2,3) and possibly Tchaikovsky (5,6). Was tempted to include Brian (1), Glazunov (1,7), Lloyd (6), Shostakovich (7) and Villa Lobos (8). Hovered briefly over Part (4). I actually prefer Brahms 3rd to his 4th but Copland had to go in. A lot of others too numerous to mention but rules is rules etc.
                            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                            So I can't have RVW 1 to 9 then ,oh well.

                            1) Walton
                            2) Elgar
                            3) Alwyn
                            4) Lloyd
                            5) Parry
                            6) Rubbra
                            7) Stanford
                            8) Arnold
                            9) RVW
                            Great minds Lat

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                            • Op. XXXIX
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 189

                              #74
                              Okay, I'll bite:

                              1) Korngold
                              2) Elgar
                              3) Vaughan Williams
                              4) Schmidt
                              5) Sibelius
                              6) Mahler
                              7) stuck on this one... but certainly not Prokofiev or Shostakovich
                              8) Bruckner
                              9) Beethoven

                              (Note that Schmidt is making his first appearance in this thread. )

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                              • Pabmusic
                                Full Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 5537

                                #75
                                The premise is faulty, since it is severely biased in favour of composers of many symphonies (Elgar's 7th just isn't possible) and against those who wrote a small number (I can think of at least five Seconds that ought to be here).

                                However, here's my list:

                                1 Elgar
                                2 Kalinnikov (but Suk's Asrael should also be here, at least. And RVW, and Borodin, and Berwald)
                                3 Parry
                                4 Schumann (1851 version)
                                5 RVW
                                6 Atterberg
                                7 Sibelius
                                8 Schubert (i.e.: the 'Great' C major)
                                9 Dvorak

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