Composer Anniversaries - 2013

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  • gurnemanz
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7388

    #31
    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
    I don't understand why his music isn't as critically acclaimed as say that of Chopin and Liszt,but I'm no expert.
    I'm certainly no expert. I just enjoy the weird and wonderful music.

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #32
      From the Wikipedia entry on Alkan:

      "On 25 April 2009, BBC Radio 3 dedicated a 45 minute program to Alkan's life, presented by Piers Lane and with contributions by John White and David Conway."

      About time they devoted a Composer of the Week to him, (Alkan, that is, though John White would also be a fine candidate).

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      • Beef Oven

        #33
        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
        I don't understand why his music isn't as critically acclaimed as say that of Chopin and Liszt,but I'm no expert.
        Rob, egg wetter gree. And I am no expert either. I attended an amazing concert at the RFH in London in the 90s where Jack Gibbons did about two hours of Alkan's solo piano works including the symphony and the concerto. I also have the ASV CD that Jack Gibbons did.

        Why don't we hear much of Alkan? Strangely neglected.

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16122

          #34
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          From the Wikipedia entry on Alkan:

          "On 25 April 2009, BBC Radio 3 dedicated a 45 minute program to Alkan's life, presented by Piers Lane and with contributions by John White and David Conway."

          About time they devoted a Composer of the Week to him, (Alkan, that is, though John White would also be a fine candidate).
          Indeed so - and it would no loner have to be all piano music, either since there are now recordings of the chamber works and of many of the pédalier pieces played on the organ. Half a century or more ago, before the pioneering efforts of Searle, Smith, Ogdon, Lewenthal and, peripherally, Walton and (Sacheverell) Sitwell, Alkan was a great deal more neglected than is the case today; occasionally, Egon Petri would program something, the young Arrau played a few Alkan works (but didn't maintain them in his public repertoire) and even Busoni is known to have played some pieces, but the sheer practical difficulty of some of his music has, I suspect, been the principal cause of the turning off where most performers are concerned. Today, with a clutch of recordings and more artists performing his music, his comparative neglect is perhaps even more surprising. I also suspect that some people have been put off his work on the misplaced assumption that it's all as demanding as the concerto, which is patently not the case. Furthermore, I don't suppose that Alkan did his future reputation any great favours by turning reclusive at so early a stage in his career (Liszt did this at a later stage in his - and then not so forthrightly and implacably in any case).

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          • ahinton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 16122

            #35
            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
            I'm certainly no expert. I just enjoy the weird and wonderful music.
            But people like you (as long as there are sufficient of them!) are just what his cause needs!

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            • Lateralthinking1

              #36
              I think there is a theory that appreciation of Alkan's music occasionally suffers from the obvious technical demands. It isn't something I believe but it is the idea that dexterity in the performance almost by necessity overshadows everything else.

              Following up on Pabmusic's post, I have just noticed that this is also the centenary of Bantock's Hebridean Symphony.

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              • Beef Oven

                #37
                Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                I think there is a theory that appreciation of Alkan's music occasionally suffers from the obvious technical demands. It isn't something I believe but it is the idea that dexterity in the performance almost by necessity overshadows everything else.


                Following up on Pabmusic's post, I have just noticed that this is also the centenary of Bantock's Hebridean Symphony.
                Jack Gibbons seems to have double-jointed rubber-wrists


                I must task myself to get my head around the Hebridean in 2013. It doesn't do very much for me and I suspect I must be missing something

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                • Lateralthinking1

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                  Jack Gibbons seems to have double-jointed rubber-wrists


                  I must task myself to get my head around the Hebridean in 2013. It doesn't do very much for me and I suspect I must be missing something
                  It is a bit light perhaps but I really like it. Hope you find the time to listen to it again. And thanks - because it is your thread about neglected British composers that I have been reading through recently and that took me ultimately to John Foulds. I am not quite sure how it happened but the references to him then led me to his wife, Maud MacCarthy; a quite unusual radio station in Ireland; and an excellent documentary about her on that station. I have put the details and a link to the programme on the WM board.

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                  • Beef Oven

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                    It is a bit light perhaps but I really like it. Hope you find the time to listen to it again. And thanks - because it is your thread about neglected British composers that I have been reading through recently and that took me ultimately to John Foulds. I am not quite sure how it happened but the references to him then led me to his wife, Maud MacCarthy; a quite unusual radio station in Ireland; and an excellent documentary about her on that station. I have put the details and a link to the programme on the WM board.
                    It's fascinating where we end up on these boards. I will check your link on the WM board - thanks for that

                    P.S. I think the music of Foulds is utterly amazing!

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                      I think the music of Foulds is utterly amazing!


                      Incidentally, Arthur Butterworth will be 90 in 2013. I hope (but don't suppose ) that he'll feature in the Proms, but I hope at least there'll be a little more BBC attention than just the interview on this week's Countryfile:

                      Ellie looks back at the men and women who have been inspired by the British countryside.


                      ... go to the 13min mark.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Roehre

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                        ...
                        P.S. I think the music of Foulds is utterly amazing!
                        but unfortunately very uneven.

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                        • Lateralthinking1

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                          but unfortunately very uneven.
                          Well, if that is true, he had to pay the bills. There was a time when his lighter music was on the BBC every day. He wasn't at all happy with the situation. He remarked that only a tiny number of his compositions were ever broadcast. Most were atypical.

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                          • Stan Drews
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 79

                            #43
                            On a local (but I hope not too parochial) note, it's also the centenary of Cedric Thorpe Davie (whom Hornspieler will remember from an early Edinburgh Festival gig). Perhaps not a great composer, but some notable film scores on his cv.

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25209

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                              It's fascinating where we end up on these boards. I will check your link on the WM board - thanks for that

                              P.S. I think the music of Foulds is utterly amazing!
                              Would you (or Ferney/Roehre/Lat or anybody else) like to suggest a couple of Fould's pieces to have an initial listen to please? I have seen a couple of suggestions elswhere on the web, but I like the personal touch !!
                              Cheers.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Beef Oven

                                #45
                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                Would you (or Ferney/Roehre/Lat or anybody else) like to suggest a couple of Fould's pieces to have an initial listen to please? I have seen a couple of suggestions elswhere on the web, but I like the personal touch !!
                                Cheers.

                                ts - Here's a link to the Foulds CD that I would recommend without reservation. Not only is it an amazing Foulds listen, it is one of the best CDs that money can buy (yes, it's that good!).

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